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Thread ID: 51657 2004-11-26 08:49:00 How do these Supercheappc.biz and the likes work? george12 (7) Press F1
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296673 2004-11-26 10:30:00 > I have also heard a theory.
> Many of the owners/operators of these cheap computer
> sellers are Asians, and they all sort of 'work as a
> team' and buy in large from companies in Asia.
> This way, the people who start up a firm buying from
> NZ wholesalers can't compete.
> Only something i heard (from an owner of a Auckland
> based Computer store) and don't no if thats the case,
> but it could explain it.
> Becuase i also tend to buy more of my parts from
> normal online retail stores than teh wholesalers i'm
> with...


These things are called buying groups, Farmers use them, so do wise women with children buying groceries.

Problem is most kiwi one man bands wont cooperate, or help one another, so the suppliers make cream and your competittors surpass you.

Most euro dealers will not even admitt who the wholsalers are, they are so terrified of competetion.

In situations like this those who cooperate will walk all over those that dont.

D.
drb1 (4492)
296674 2004-11-26 10:40:00 George,

Lets form a buyers group,You duck off and learn Tiawanese,and i'll rake up enough cash for 20 harddrives,we should save at least 40 cents per drive,and then we can sell em at a $2 markup.
metla (154)
296675 2004-11-26 10:43:00 Only 40 cents Metla? george12 (7)
296676 2004-11-26 10:48:00 I have looked over a number of private importing deals,granted i don't have direct contacts like those from that part of the world but the proposels i have looked at i wouldn't touch with a hundred foot stick. metla (154)
296677 2004-11-26 11:25:00 Metla,

Why would I need to learn one of the Chinese, languages allthough I do have a little.

You start buy bullying locall suppliers, as well as paralleing.

You must walk first. this is not a total jest.

D.
drb1 (4492)
296678 2004-11-26 12:14:00 > You must walk first. this is not a total jest.

I realise that,which is why i told George he was heading for a large hole and to side step after he expressed interest in importing.

As for learning Chinese?

Need to read the pricelists for a start,and any contracts,and haggle.

A round-eye such as myself would be eaten alive.



Besides,no matter what extremes you went to,someone else would still undercut you,mark-up would be tiny,and the entire business would relie on moving large volumes for small gain.
metla (154)
296679 2004-11-26 12:44:00 Metla

The purpose of such a unit would be to do as others do.

Join several retaiers want to be retailers mail order vendors together and use the totall p/p to get a better deal locally, parelling is a dangerous game in a rush.

Moving at a steady pace the chinese will come to see you (their locall commision rep) any way.

The turnover of even half a dozen regionall shops is not something that can be ignored by any locall wholesaler, the market is too tight.

There are other ways that such a unit can be made to perform for its shareholders, such should not be in a public forum.

High volume low margin is the place to get out of, not into.

D..
drb1 (4492)
296680 2004-11-26 17:47:00 What you need are local contacts, rather than going to approach suppliers in Taiwan yourself. Someone who knows the market in Taiwan is going to know how much you should expect to pay for goods XYZ, and will know how much they can haggle the suppliers.

I think there are firms who specialise in this, (many english-speaking), often westerners who move there to sell to western countries.

Just out of curiosity, how do you know that companies like SuperCheapPC.biz aren't actually just "divisions" of a wholesale supplier, selling their wholesale goods at lower retail prices. As long as they form a separate "company", it could still all be one-man's operation.
somebody (208)
296681 2004-11-27 00:58:00 > What you need are local contacts, rather than going
> to approach suppliers in Taiwan yourself. Someone who
> knows the market in Taiwan is going to know how much
> you should expect to pay for goods XYZ, and will know
> how much they can haggle the suppliers.

A buying group has more power with these people, And will attract them quite quickly.

> I think there are firms who specialise in this, (many
> english-speaking), often westerners who move there to
> sell to western countries.

Based on both sides

> Just out of curiosity, how do you know that companies
> like SuperCheapPC.biz aren't actually just
> "divisions" of a wholesale supplier, selling their
> wholesale goods at lower retail prices. As long as
> they form a separate "company", it could still all be
> one-man's operation.

They must have a relationship of quality with one or more wholesalers to continuosly compete at these levels, much of their stock is probably sale or return so they can lower their margins.

D.
drb1 (4492)
296682 2004-11-27 01:47:00 Ive traded with Supercheappc.biz and found them to be friendly although the parking was a pain.

but the prices are very good and where else can you buy an oem os with a dvd drive?
bob_doe_nz (92)
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