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Thread ID: 51859 2004-12-01 20:55:00 guys did you hear about that new Lycos Screensaver!! dan1000 (6493) Press F1
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298832 2004-12-02 05:07:00 Welcome to PressF1, Dan.

Unfortunately, "getting back" doesn't actually help anyone.

It has some very bad results. First, it doesn't affect the spammers. They use "false addresses." Second, it hurts innocent people. The false addresses are usually those of innocent people. Third, spam is a huge proportion of the Internet traffic. Bouncing it just adds to the load. This slows everything down.
Graham L (2)
298833 2004-12-02 06:37:00 >Now thats far more interesting.

You are right there,about on a par with watching grass grow,you should try playing polo,now that's interesting.;)
Thomas (1820)
298834 2004-12-02 07:10:00 I agree with Graham - This just adds to the bulk of useless 'net transmissions...

Baldy:
I prefer the term "Whoop @$$" ;-)
Chilling_Silence (9)
298835 2004-12-02 07:24:00 > I agree with Graham - This just adds to the bulk of
> useless 'net transmissions...

Yeah try telling that to the numbnuts that programmed MailWasher. Everyone thinks they are saving the intarweb by bouncing hundreds of spam messages when in fact it doesn't do a lick of soddery.

I had a customer forward me 80 spam messages the other day, with no explanation, just 80 attached spams. I have no idea what they presumed I'd do with them - drop all my tasks and sail off around the world in search of these spammers?

I think a lot of people are confused about what the screen saver does though, it doesn't bounce spam, it doesn't target mailservers, it targets spamvertised web-sites as far as I can tell.

In actual fact it is nothing more than a DDoS which is pretty mailicious behaviour, particualrly when other legitimate sites on the same server could be affected. I don't know what Lycos was smoking when they decided to release this.
ninja (1671)
298836 2004-12-02 07:28:00 Well put, I agree.. And certainly the "bounce" email should be removed from Mailwasher, as it doesnt do any good really..... Chilling_Silence (9)
298837 2004-12-02 07:43:00 > Well put, I agree.. And certainly the "bounce" email
> should be removed from Mailwasher, as it doesnt do
> any good really.....

At the very least not turned on by default like it is, along with huge warning bells, flashing signs and step by setp descriptions of what it actually does.

The bounce messages MailWasher sends should actually be considered forgeries and any ISP who has users sending those messages out posing as their mail servers could easily take action against the user, either by terminating their account or taking it through the courts.
ninja (1671)
298838 2004-12-02 07:55:00 I used to "Bounce with Mailwasher" now I "Delete with Outlook Express" Baldy (26)
298839 2004-12-02 07:57:00 Yeah - Thunderbird flags any junk I get (one or two a week) and I then have chosen to manually delete it. Its nice jsut having it marked as spam though for easy picking out and removing :-) Chilling_Silence (9)
298840 2004-12-02 08:32:00 > I used to "Bounce with Mailwasher" now I "Delete with
> Outlook Express"

I used to bounce with Mailwasher then I used delete with Mailwasher and now I don't use Mailwasher. I use Outlook with rules.
Elephant (599)
298841 2004-12-02 08:45:00 Evil - wasting 3.4MB of YOUR bandwidth per day!

What strong drugs they must have been on...
george12 (7)
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