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Thread ID: 51966	2004-12-06 02:18:00	Banned from OCNZ on my 3nd post :(	george12 (7)	Press F1

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299966	2004-12-07 21:50:00	HISTRY OF: pwned taken from http://www.urbandictionary.com A corruption of the word "Owned." This originated in an online game called Warcraft, where a map designer misspelled "owned." When the computer beat a player, it was supposed to say, so-and-so "has been owned." Instead, it said, so-and-so "has been pwned." It basically means "to own" or to be dominated by an opponent or situation, especially by some god-like or computer-like force. "Man, I rock at my job, but I still got a bad evaluation. I was pwned." OR "That team totally pwned us." Source: Daniel Rivera, Apr 11, 2003 Unlike the other people who have posted definitions that are ridiculous, do not have substantial backing, or are simply mis-informed, I will give the complete definition of what "pwned" means. 1. The origins of "pwned" are debated but there are two possible sources: a. A prominent quake player mis spelled "owned" and the new word "pwned" was adopted by people who thought it was "1337". b. A warcraft map designer misspelled "owned" and thus people started using "pwned" instead. The definitions are as follows: In video games: 1. Completely annihilated or dominated. 2. Perfectly owned, meaning the other player did not do any damage. I pwned your head with my awp. OR I just pwned your ass noob! Source: jack, Nov 17, 2003 3. pwned MEANING: The past tense of the word "pwn," which means "to kick the ass of (an opponent)." HISTORY: Contrary to popular belief, "pwned" did not originate in Warcraft. A top Quake player mispelled "owned" and the term quickly spread to less players and eventually to nearly the entire population of online gamers. The word is usually used in online FPS and RTS games. USAGE: Pwned is often said to an individual's lesser opponent after the greater person or team has defeated his enemy. Can also be used when verbal superiority is shown in an arguement, for instance, on a video or computer game message board/forum.	fus1_n (3818)
299967	2004-12-07 22:06:00	Um you do realized this forum is sponsored by a commercial enterprise ie. PC World magazine....? And meh, I got banned from overclockers a while back, but i deserved it really (well the first time anyway :p) and I liked it more than I like this forum (despite the fact I've never been banned from here :D)	RobbyW (5226)
299968	2004-12-07 22:08:00	Oops forgot to click 'quote original' but that was in response to 'noone'	RobbyW (5226)
299969	2004-12-07 22:16:00	Well this thread certainly proved to be some great comedy, now some answers: > I think it would be good if the rules were displayed when you sign up it would make it easier So do I, but we have a long running problem where our webmaster puts forum matters on a lower priority to everything else he's doing. He is a busy guy, but sometimes the waiting period is just stupidly long... > while I agree that george should have read the rules before posting, it was waaay too unfair to ban him straight away. > pah, they're running vBulletin. they deserve to be shot for that too. We take a zero tolerance approach now. Break the rules - you get punished. Now I was wondering when this thread would get a death threat, it's not a real anti-whetu thread until there's a death threat (no I'm not kidding - I'm completely desensitised to them) so I guess this would kinda sorta count. If you find a problem with vbulletin, that's your opinion. In my experience it's one of the better forum systems out there. Arent you a phpbb fanboy? I've seen a number of phpbb forums compromised lately, and one that I frequent is currently suffering from content spam... > Get a Hotmail address We've blocked off a lot of free email systems, so that wouldnt work. > That egotistical moron Whetu. Wait he comes here too. Nowhere can you escape the idiot, but at least he can't ban you from > here for no reason! I always ban for a good reason. In this example it would be for flaming. > You can be banned for anything and everything, even something so trivial it's not funny. Growly put it one way very well: > Banned for having an opinion, banned for a spelling mistake, banned because you posted in the BSE without having 100posts, > banned because they don't like you etc. > ... > ban without warning, ban without care, ban for a simple joke, ban for a spelling mistake, ban for a single emoticon post, > ban for sharing opinions, ban, ban, ban... * if by "anything and everything" you mean "breaking the rules" then yes * "trivial"? If you're talking about being banned for something you perceive as something worthy of say, a slap with a wet bus ticket, then you should read up on the Broken Windows theory. It worked for New York, it's working for us. * Having an opinion? Nope * Spelling mistake? Nope, you'd get a gentle reminder, and a number of warnings first * Posting in the BSE before being a senior member? Rules are rules, when we say "no exceptions" we mean it * Banned because we dont like you? Nope. I've never banned anyone for that reason. * Without warning? Yep, what do you expect? "hey rule-breaker, I'm going to ban you now. FYI *thumbs up*" * Ban without care? Yep. It's very simple - break the rules in such a way as to get banned, then you'll get banned. There's no point in us mods getting all wound up and involved with it; the amount of work is the same. * Ban for a simple joke? Nope * Single emoticon post? Hell yeah. ";)" does not constitute any form of valuable input and is simply spamming. Really Growly, you've been around OCNZ long enough to know better > they even ban because of the your specs are better issue, blah blah blah I'm sorry? when did this ever happen? > I just have to sign up and see what I can do to get the big stick > we are timing you > I dare you to bounce an old thread. This is just disappointing, and certainly predictable. For members of PressF1 who constantly ramble on about how great PressF1 is, lowering yourself to the level of, say, the GPForums, is only proving something that I'll let you speculate. > Hmm ... remember guys, it isn't really polite to go to a forum just to be a troll and cause trouble. See, even your own moderators agree. > getting alot of publicity from this arnt overclokers nz Not really > He was banned for posting in the BSE without having posted 100 posts (senior member). You're off by a bit. The figure your obvious extensive fact finding missed out on is actually closer to half of your claim. > Post links to the threads you guys are bumping Again, I expect better from PressF1'rs. > why would they restrict peoples posting rights to after they have reached a certain post count > To make sure they are REAAAALLLLY l337. > /rolleyes And here is where we get to the real point of it all. Because we had a period there where a lot of people were signing up just to use the BSE. No valuable input into the rest of the forums, just the BSE. A large number of these people were just scamming, ripping off or pimping products of their own business. As our BSE is intended for members of the community to buy/sell gear to one another, the BSE was locked down, and people who didnt like the fact were told to go to Trademe. The Senior Member threshold was set as the base requirement for access as within that period you could prove your worth to the community. Long story short - use of the BSE must be earnt. If you guys dont like that, fine. But it's a system that works damn well for us, and I dont expect members of a sans-BSE forum to understand the justification of a dozen moderators from a forum with a BSE. > Do you think I would have been banned if I had have tried with 99 posts? > whetu: We banned you because when you made that post you had 99 posts. > george00: But ... that was my 100th! > whetu: Shut Up. You are not U83R 133T 3N0UGH. Go away Yeah, again - when did this ever happen? It never did and never would. To restate what I've already said - I always ban for a good reason. That is not a good reason. > If you didnt read the forum rules, then got kicked, that sounds a lot more like what we should be adopting (Perhaps a second > chance) but Im willing to bet the OCNZ Forums dont have ***** threads that go on for days. Unfortunately we do have such threads Chilling, about once every 6 months or so. Everyone has a whinge, everyone makes up and life goes on. > Their protocol of not allowing regular members view, let alone advertise on their STE forums is proof enough that the site > owner is a business selling PC parts and doesn't want any sales competition...! > > > Overclockers Ltd Ming Chieh Chung > > > 2 Cintra Place > > > Casebrook > > > Christchurch > The moderators are just gun-bunnies for the site owner, I guess, and who knows, maybe even get a commision on sales that > each one encourages through the owner's site!? Wow, quite an imagination you've got there. We do let regular members use the BSE, that's the point of it. We dont let business activities go on in the BSE simply because it's supposed to be for the community members to deal with each other directly. It wasnt initially started this way, but after a lot of nasty politics when a couple of retailers tried ruining it for everyone else, it was decided to give the BSE more of a clear, cohesive purpose. Again, I dont expect you to understand such a mentality, but please get your facts straight. As for being gun bunnies.. far from it. And no, we arent on a commission, you can put that conspiracy theory to rest. Ming is a top notch guy, and he does treat us well, but there's no point in bringing him into this. The OCNZ forum community is a seperate entity from the OCNZ business. > if you have a forum with a shop , you would expect a huge influence from the shop itself , therefor ocnz forums would always be a biasd forum As responded by a member here: > more often than not people on the forum are sent to other stores rather than the ocnz one, in fact I have seen the forum > owners state a couple of times that they would rather sell to stores as they are a wholesaler primarily. > The only real involvement we see from the ocnz store itself is occassional sales of "ex-demo/testing" items on the bse. At least someone can get their facts right. > Wouldn't you say that was 'pwn' not 'own' ? Both are acceptable. pwn is simply a common typo from fps games (way back in q2/ut days) where you dont have time to check your spelling. pwn is often used now to mock gamer kiddies eg "oh em gee I pwnz j00!~1"	whetu (237)
299970	2004-12-07 22:46:00	Thats all nice and well Whetu,You are well within your rights to run your forum anyway you please,But that post was just another long rambling waste of space, I resent the fact i bothered to read it. Actually i only read the first 100 or so words,just more yadda yadda yadda,tight ship,yadda yadda ,punished,yadda yadda,leet leet leet. I do wonder if its you lack of years or your personality that gives you such a manner,if its just age you may mature and OCNZ may improve.	metla (154)
299971	2004-12-07 22:55:00	that was really long and i am happy to say tat i read every word	noone (22)
299972	2004-12-07 22:56:00	I really cant understand Metla in this instance, really looks like he has just run out of decent arguments (no offence metla, normally I completely agree with you, but in this instance...) Whetu> FYI I am "robert6655" on ocnz	lagbort (5041)
299973	2004-12-07 23:18:00	>If you find a problem with vbulletin, that's your opinion. In my experience it's one of the better forum systems out there. Well, I have to agree with Whetu here which is why we'll be switching to Vbulletin very very soon. It's good package and well suppported. And on that note I'm closing this thread. I'm really I'm not comfortable with F1 being used to run down another forum like this -- this isn't the forum's function, even in an off topic discussion. And whatever your beef with OCNZ, some of the things said by F1ers here do not reflect well upon them. If I was Whetu, frankly I'd have posted something much less civil in reply. End of story, and please, can we avoid someone accusing me of being a jackbooted nazi who loves to censor, because I think I've let this thread have a faily good run, beyond what it merited.	Biggles (121)
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