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Thread ID: 135619 2013-11-24 03:52:00 Family Trees Richard (739) PC World Chat
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1360720 2013-11-24 03:52:00 Any of you guys into genealogy? If so, how do you access New Zealand information? Ancestry.com gives me plenty of access to UK and Australian records, but NZ seems to be a bit of a secret squirrel outfit, with what is really public information. Is there some way to get at this info without having to pay for a paper certificate, which I don't really want. All I want is dates and places. Richard (739)
1360721 2013-11-24 04:44:00 www.ancestry.com.au/newzealand www.dia.govt.nz NEW-ZEALAND@rootsweb.com

Hello Richard

Pleased to meet another genealogy researcher. Above are 3 websites you will find very helpful. There are many of course but the Historical BMD site is excellent. You can even work out the exact date of births, marriages and deaths as you will see. Ancestry are now Australia and New Zealand but to get exact info you probably have to subscribe - I don't think your English sub will cover it also. If you subscribe to the New Zealand Rootsweb site you can ask for regular listings to arrive in your mailbox. Unless you wish to be inundated with every listing arriving singley subscribe to "Digest" and they come daily in bulk, much better. You may have all these sites but the NZ rootsweb is great to ask for help finding any ancestors.

If I can help with anything else please ask.

Kind regards
Mrs "Smithie"
smithie 38 (6684)
1360722 2013-11-24 06:07:00 Any of you guys into genealogy? If so, how do you access New Zealand information? Ancestry.com gives me plenty of access to UK and Australian records, but NZ seems to be a bit of a secret squirrel outfit, with what is really public information. Is there some way to get at this info without having to pay for a paper certificate, which I don't really want. All I want is dates and places.

C:\Documents and Settings\User\Desktop\Papers Past.htm. You might want to try this site as well. I used to look at incoming shipping lists & I think voting lists. Altho I am not too sure on the Voting now. Maybe that was a seperate Link. PJ
Poppa John (284)
1360723 2013-11-24 06:10:00 c:\documents is on a computer not on a site Speedy Gonzales (78)
1360724 2013-11-24 06:13:00 c:\documents is on a computer not on a site

Soory correct Try googling just...Papers Past NZ...then.

freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com This is the other site. PJ
Poppa John (284)
1360725 2013-11-24 06:27:00 Thanks for the replies. I have visited all these sites, and have found the passenger lists etc. Mrs Smithie, I am on a paid Ancestry subscription, and can access stuff freely from Aussie, the US, and the UK, but births death and marriages from NZ are hidden unless over 100 years ago, in which case you get the dreaded 'proceed to payment page'. Even then the search facility is so convoluted as to be useless.

Funny thing is I started this genealogy thing quite casually when ancestry offered 14 days free access, but it becomes quite addictive as you find out stuff you never knew, and wish you had started earlier when parents and grandparents were still alive. The Ancestry site is very helpful in offering 'hints' but it seems they are hamstrung by the same restrictions I am now encountering when it comes to NZ records.
Richard (739)
1360726 2013-11-24 07:01:00 Sorry Richard that I couldn't give you any advice that you hadn't tried already. Yes we do get hamstrung by the restrictions of 100 yrs etc. And yes Richard it does become very addictive but so rewarding when you find out anything you were unaware of. My biggest hurdle has been the Smith line but I have made great inroads in the last few years. I left that name to the very last in my research!

Best of luck with your searching.
Mrs Smithie
smithie 38 (6684)
1360727 2013-11-24 08:09:00 I'm nearly as bad, having to research Jones and Morgan from Wales, and Hosking from Cornwall! There are thousands of them, but with a few clues Ancestry soon sorts the wheat from the chaff, except for New Zealand. The department of Internal affairs could make it all so easy, and satisfying, but they seem hung up on the PC rubbish of privacy, in what are public records. Weird. Richard (739)
1360728 2013-11-24 08:17:00 Best thing we did was set up a family only FB page. You soon grt them come out of the wood work plod (107)
1360729 2013-11-24 20:35:00 I know it doesn't help much with your basic issue Richard, but the restriction at BDM in NZ isn't simply 100 years. Here are the restrictions:

Births that occurred at least 100 years ago
Stillbirths that occurred at least 50 years ago
Marriages that occurred at least 80 years ago
Deaths that occurred at least 50 years ago or the deceased's date of birth was at least 80 years ago.

I agree that this is still ridiculous, given that these should be public records in my not so humble opinion.

I thought you could just go into a library and search the BDM registers in their written form, without restriction. Example - my sister and I were trying to locate a 1963 birth, and she was able to find the record. As it was an adoption it didn't identify the child's adoptive name, only his birth details. My sister did this about 10 years ago, but maybe the written registers are now restricted like the computer searches?

In a former life I used to go to BDM in Wgtn (it was then part of the Justice Dept) and do birth record searches for colleagues all over the country (I was doing this on their behalf because the records were centralised in Wgtn). All of the searches were to determine whether a person was under or over 16 years of age, so there were no restrictions then - that was in the 1970's.
John H (8)
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