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Thread ID: 52149 2004-12-10 22:01:00 Toshiba laptop bk T (215) Press F1
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301878 2004-12-11 00:42:00 And if that doesn't work, look for a programme called TSETUP ... I have an idea that "very early" notebooks might use that. Graham L (2)
301879 2004-12-11 01:23:00 It seems that TSETUP.EXE is for very old Toshibas. ;-) But with "tsetup" to Google the 4th link ("Toshiba CMOS Hot keys" suggests the Esc key for access to BIOS setup in most later models. Graham L (2)
301880 2004-12-11 03:44:00 I thank you all for the suggestions and ideas.

Pressing Esc key then F1 while booting indeed brought me in to the BIOS setup. Thanks, once again folks.

I'm now a bit hesitate to reinstall the OS to this machine as I worry that I may not be able to get the correct drivers for the hardware like the sound, display and modem drivers as there isn't any CDs available. Been to their website but apparently, there isn't any drivers at all for download.

The problem I have with this machine is it's keyboard: for example, when I press 'a' key, an 'i' appears before the letter 'a', and when I press the letter 'z', a 'k' appears before the letter 'z'.

However, when I plug in an external keyboard, this ext keyboard works fine. I suspect it could be the keyboard driver that is causing this behaviour. Unfortunately, there isn't drivers available for download.

It could be that an external keyboard was plugged in when the OS was being installed. That's why (that what I think) the system is having the driver for the external keyboard rather than the built-in keyboard. Does it make any sense? When I check the keyboard properties from the Control Panel, it says that is a

'Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard'
and with the 'Loacation: plugged into keyboard port.'

Looks like to me it's the wrong keyboard was being installed. But, where can I get the appropriate driver to correct the problem?

Any idea at all?

Cheers
bk T (215)
301881 2004-12-11 04:04:00 Changing the keyboard layout after windows is on it might fix it.

Change it to US or UK...It might be configured to another country/language...Altho, this would happen with the ext kb too I would say.

But you could give it a try
Spacemannz (808)
301882 2004-12-11 04:31:00 an old trick for pranksters
check that qwerty layout is correct on the keyboard ;\
beama (111)
301883 2004-12-11 04:37:00 Drivers are here (uk.computers.toshiba-europe.com)

Just enter the details.

You need to be resourceful, as only the UK website has the 4070 listed...

It will not allow them to be directly linked, but they are all there by the look of it, for Windows 95, 98, 98SE and NT.
godfather (25)
301884 2004-12-12 01:09:00 That keyboard problem is more likely to be in the hardware,not the software. :-( Do you get an unwanted "8" when you type "q"?) Graham L (2)
301885 2004-12-13 22:33:00 > That keyboard problem is more likely to be in the
> hardware,not the software. :-( Do you get an unwanted
> "8" when you type "q"?)

Exactly, Graham. I got the unwanted '8' when I type q; and many others! You reckon it's hardware related rather than software?
bk T (215)
301886 2004-12-14 03:14:00 The keyswitches are connected in a matrix, and the rons and coluns are scanned. That's easier andf cheaper than having 101 (or so) switch lines.
1-q-a-z and maybe Alt are probably one column; ... 8-i-k-< another .
It looks as if there is a short between two of the column lines, though your problem seems to involve a step by one in the rows. :-(

This might be some crud which has got in ... it doesn't need to be a real "copper" short ... it could be something like a bit of fluff which is damp. ;-)

If you can get at the the keyboard --- I generally use my thumbnail to pop out the cover --- and have a look at the back you might see something you can wipe off. Laptop keyboards are not usually repairable in any more "technical" way. Dismantling them tends to be permanent.
Graham L (2)
301887 2004-12-14 05:38:00 > ... It looks as if there is a short between two of the
> column lines, though your problem seems to involve a
> step by one in the rows. :-(
>
>
> If you can get at the the keyboard --- I generally
> use my thumbnail to pop out the cover --- ...

You mean, pop out the cover key by key or the whole keyboard can be removed as one piece?
bk T (215)
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