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| Thread ID: 52300 | 2004-12-16 04:48:00 | What should I learn to be an IT? | mister harbies (5607) | Press F1 |
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| 303756 | 2004-12-18 10:15:00 | Telling people they can't do something because of their age is bad taste - didn't the media make a big hoo haa about that women who graduated from university in her 60s/70s/120s ?? I thought that'd be a lesson to all you haters out there! Besides, it's be truly horrible if we all started getting qualified aged 4. |
Growly (6) | ||
| 303757 | 2004-12-18 10:21:00 | Be interesting to know your age Tux, Something of a child i would guess, The age of the thread starter has nothing to do with his ability or drive. Well put And going by his profile he is barely out of his teens..... :rolleyes: By my count he's 25.. fairly out of his teens ;) To answer the original question - do the first year of the BIT course, this was once upon a time referred to as CBC. It is a fairly broad and fairly easy year of study, and you touch on the major parts of corporate IT. You can then narrow down your speciality. And depending on who the education provider is that you go to, you should come out of it with A+, Network+ and a few other qualifications. There was also an earlier mention of approaching IT companies - extremely good advice. For many people, the entry point in IT is helldesk, and any IT employer worth their teeth will pay more attention to your experience than your qualifications. My employer for example wont let you breathe in the direction of our datacentres unless you have 2 years min. server experience. If you can survive a year or three on helldesk, then you'll survive in IT. Your time on the desk will make or break you. When I was at polytech, I found it quite amusing the amount of people who genuinely believed they were going to graduate and then walk into a 6-digit salary. Sorry folks, there is good money to be made in IT, but it's not that good. If your main reason for getting into IT is money, you should perhaps consider another profession - one that you'll be happy doing day in and day out, because the IT industry is unfortunately saturated with thousands of people who are just in it for the money. |
whetu (237) | ||
| 303758 | 2004-12-18 10:24:00 | what about down the hardware path ?Hardware, generally, will not pay much. Any trained monkey can put a computer together these days, it's simply a matter of matching componants. It's the IT equivalent of a mechanic as opposed to an engineer - a good engineer will earn far more than a good mechanic... generally. Data work is good, IMHO. With skills like SQL and Crystal the world's your pipi! That's my www.pressf1.co.nz |
Spout (6433) | ||
| 303759 | 2004-12-18 10:43:00 | To answer the original question - do the first year of the BIT course, this was once upon a time referred to as CBC. It is a fairly broad and fairly easy year of study, and you touch on the major parts of corporate IT. You can then narrow down your speciality. And depending on who the education provider is that you go to, you should come out of it with A+, Network+ and a few other qualifications. Weird - I always thought that CBC was level 4, and yet I did the hardware and o/s courses (for A+) at level 5, and the Network+ course at level 6 - have I been lied to? Well back to me now, I don't intend to work at a helpdesk - ever ever ever ever. I figured that my job at school (assisstant tech, the hands on stuff I never wanted to do, from laying cables and crawling under building to implementing linux routers to touching expensive servers) will give me enough work experience by the time I leave university to not have to. |
Growly (6) | ||
| 303760 | 2004-12-18 18:00:00 | Weird - I always thought that CBC was level 4, and yet I did the hardware and o/s courses (for A+) at level 5, and the Network+ course at level 6 - have I been lied to? You have been lied to. CBC/BIT-1 is primarily level 5 with a few level 6 papers thrown in for fun. For level 4 you're looking more at the likes of ICDL, though ICDL tends to be a bit of level 1, 2, 3 and 4. While on the subject of courses, right now the smart learning is in linux - it's a specialised knowledge, and so you can negotiate a higher pay. Weltec has a paper where you walk out with essentially LPI1, LPI2, Linux+ and most of RHCE. It's not a bad 600 bucks spent if you ask me. Slightly off topic, did anyone else see the thread title and immediately think it was about transgender issues? *carefully worded* ;) |
whetu (237) | ||
| 303761 | 2004-12-18 20:39:00 | You have been lied to. CBC/BIT-1 is primarily level 5 with a few level 6 papers thrown in for fun. For level 4 you're looking more at the likes of ICDL, though ICDL tends to be a bit of level 1, 2, 3 and 4 :O Oh dear! Well I'll just keep the level 6 credits they gave me and move on with my life... While on the subject of courses, right now the smart learning is in linux - it's a specialised knowledge, and so you can negotiate a higher pay. Weltec has a paper where you walk out with essentially LPI1, LPI2, Linux+ and most of RHCE. It's not a bad 600 bucks spent if you ask me. Funny you should say that, someone was saying that linux certifications are in their infancy at the moment and perhaps not the best choice - then again I've been lied to alot recently. Was looking at a course for next year - maybe linux... or MCSE... or I can just finish A+ (once again if you don't have it, get it, and furthermore perpetuate the endless cycle of degrading comments aimed at it) - or get CCNA - or just aim for finishing school - or not. :s Well this thread was never about me (although I would have liked it to be), so we can all carry on now... Slightly off topic, did anyone else see the thread title and immediately think it was about transgender issues? *carefully worded* Erm - no, but I did spend a few moments trying to figure out what it meant - but now that you mention it, BAHAHAHAHA! |
Growly (6) | ||
| 303762 | 2004-12-18 23:15:00 | all i can say, is that by your age and the knowledge you say you have, i doubt you would make it in IT, if you realy had to ask what quals you should get then you really have no idea what you are talking about. it is a very cut throat business now days as profit margins diminish and the market becomes saturated Tux, Im 25, intending to quit my job of three years. In my last job, I did many jobs that an IT technician could have done. I don't have any qualifications, but my boss trusted me, occassionally I would fail the job, and call the technician. It turns out that the technician is dumbfounded too. What I am saying is that, I don't have qualifications, I don't know what I am messing around with, but I do occassionally (or often) get it done with success. But I need something on paper to prove that I know what I am messing around with. Everyone starts somewhere. When you were born you knew nothing about computers. I know more about computers than you did when you were born, so don't pick on me saying that I don't know what I am talking about. And besides this thread could be useful for others too! |
mister harbies (5607) | ||
| 303763 | 2004-12-18 23:20:00 | Slightly off topic, did anyone else see the thread title and immediately think it was about transgender issues? *carefully worded* ;) LOL Whetu, Nothing to do about NOT becoming a he or she, but becoming IT. The title should have said IT Technician :p |
mister harbies (5607) | ||
| 303764 | 2004-12-19 03:13:00 | Funny you should say that, someone was saying that linux certifications are in their infancy at the moment and perhaps not the best choice - then again I've been lied to alot recently. Was looking at a course for next year - maybe linux... or MCSE... or I can just finish A+ (once again if you don't have it, get it, and furthermore perpetuate the endless cycle of degrading comments aimed at it) - or get CCNA - or just aim for finishing school - or not. Finish school and get that out of your hair, you've got plenty of time to continue with qualifications (and trust me, you WANT to get school out of the way ;) ) Right now an RHCE would be more valuable than an MCSE IMHO - MCSE was once upon a time a very valuable qualification, but now it's almost a token qualification. The downside with qualifications like RHCE, MCSE and CCNA is they're all vendor specific. That's where neutral qualifications like the + series and the LPI's come in handy - they balance your qualset and give you a broader knowledgebase |
whetu (237) | ||
| 303765 | 2004-12-19 03:15:00 | I have been enlightened once more by the ever wise whetu, thank you very much :D | Growly (6) | ||
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