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| Thread ID: 52388 | 2004-12-17 13:33:00 | I think I'm being ripped off.... XP3000+ | hamstar (4) | Press F1 |
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| 304876 | 2004-12-18 02:07:00 | " . . . wouldn't quantispeed mean four of something . . . "? Probably not . "quad" is 4 . It's marketingspeak, which doesn't have to mean anything . A "year or so" ago Intel brought out the 486DX4-100 CPU . You might think that means 4 x the bus speed? Of course not . That CPU ran at 3X the 33 MHz bus speed, and it was a 99 MHz processor . :D (Of course that was for a good reason . If they had used a 4X multiplier, they would have had to run the bus at 25MHz, so everything would have been slowed down . ) That's why the 486DX2-50 was not a great improvement over the 33 MHz one, whereas the DX2-66 was . |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 304877 | 2004-12-18 02:15:00 | AMD Athlon XP 2600 2.083GHz Socket A 333MHz FSB AMD Athlon XP 2700 2.200GHz Socket A 333MHz FSB AMD Athlon XP 2800 2.083GHz Socket A 333MHz FSB AMD Athlon XP 3000 2.167GHz Socket A 333MHz FSB So my XP2600 has a little less mhz than the xp3000 yet it runs at 2300Mhz fine and comfortably. Why can't I chuck the xp3000 up there at 2600Mhz? Is it still going to be running faster than mine @ only 2200Mhz? Hell, I set up my neighbours xp2400 to run at 2200Mhz |
hamstar (4) | ||
| 304878 | 2004-12-18 02:34:00 | you cannot automatically expect every athlon chip to clock up to 200fsb, i mean they are only designed to run at 333 (except for the 3200+) so anything you get over and above that is just a bonus | lagbort (5041) | ||
| 304879 | 2004-12-18 02:36:00 | The way I see it: The guy sold you an XP3000+, FSB333 . These processors run at 2197MHz, with a multiplier of 13 and a bus speed of 166MHz . That is exactly what YOUR cpu is running at . And you are being ripped off how? If you think that the CPU was not the right choice for you, that is another issue altogether . CPUs are technically not designed for overclocking, and of course it will crash if you jam on an extra 400MHz, with no extra cooling and no extra voltage . 2,600MHz must be at least a 3500+, which is some pretty fast stuff to be expecting from a chip, let alone thinking the dealer is ripping you off when it can't do it . Put up with what you paid for I say . |
george12 (7) | ||
| 304880 | 2004-12-18 06:51:00 | So my XP2600 has a little less mhz than the xp3000 yet it runs at 2300Mhz fine and comfortably. Why can't I chuck the xp3000 up there at 2600Mhz? Is it still going to be running faster than mine @ only 2200Mhz? Hell, I set up my neighbours xp2400 to run at 2200Mhz Heck! I can't imagine what you'll be like if that was an Intel. Not every chip is the same. I got my P75 to run stable at P120. I've heard people with P100 that can't get anything over! P.S. Don't expect the shop to replace the chip if it goes busted. Personally, I could be overclocking my 3.0Ghz -but I'm not. You won't make much out of it and plus, you'll be doing harm to it in the long run. |
~sy~ (95) | ||
| 304881 | 2004-12-18 07:15:00 | I believe 2600 and the 3000 uses different cores, so it is natural that they are not clocked proportionally to each other. | Growly (6) | ||
| 304882 | 2004-12-18 09:08:00 | i think there are two cores that amd cpu's use - one being more overclockable and the other having the higher initial mhz rating | noone (22) | ||
| 304883 | 2004-12-18 09:16:00 | That is correct, and that is why an XP3000+ does not have a proportioately higher clock speed than the 2600+ mentioned. Essentially the same reason an AMD cpu at 2.0GHz will outperform an Intel at that clock speed. | george12 (7) | ||
| 304884 | 2004-12-18 09:21:00 | Hamster (and most others in this thread) http://www.amd.com That is all. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 304885 | 2004-12-18 09:52:00 | Set the damn processor to 166Mhz FSB (333Mhz Double Data Rate (DDR)) and be done with it. This will give you 13multi x 166fsb = 2167Mhz == Athlon XP 3000+ Any other setting will be overclocking it. If you wanted 3Ghz~, then you should've bought an Intel. Crikey, AMDs fastest chip at the moment, the FX-55 runs only at 2.6Ghz and they retail for $1521.84. Are you saying you want your $100 cpu to run like a $1500~ one? |
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