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Thread ID: 52564 2004-12-22 03:08:00 IE6 vs Opera and Firefox, OE vs Thunderbird Mike S (1766) Press F1
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306714 2005-02-23 02:58:00 I was wondering if there is a good 3rd party program to disconnect after checking Email
cheers

Try this
www.freedownloadscenter.com

Batchrun is a batch file utility. With a little practice you can make your machine do all sorts of things. I have a setup that checks my eMail automaticly before I get up in the morning and then closes the connection.
For this I used 2 bat files and scheduled them with System Scheduler from
www.splinterware.com

The disconnect part being
Open Notepad and type

Rasdial "your connetion name" /disconnect
Then save as Disconnect.bat
This is also handy for those times when win dohs! decides to hang on to the connection for whatever reason and ignores all normal commands.
Barnzy (6015)
306715 2005-02-23 03:10:00 I have used Opera for years and love it. It was literally years ahead of IE a couple of years back, and is still my favorite browser.



I must agree, having used Opera since v 4.6 I think after a while you get so used to its usability, for instance using the mousewheel to open a link in a background page, you can also set it so the background page opens next to the one your using.
Navigation through open pages is as simple as 1 2 , 1 to go to the previous page and 2 to go to the next, even in fullpage mode (F11)
It's just soooo cooool
Barnzy (6015)
306716 2005-02-23 10:00:00 I have used Opera for years and love it . It was literally years ahead of IE a couple of years back, and is still my favorite browser .

You can configure the adverts to be google ads, which take up a minimum of space (about the height of a tool bar at the top of the screen . )

Absolutely . It's by far the best browser, better even than Firefox . And if you pay for it - gasp! - the ads go away .

Now, why wouldn't you pay for it? When you use a free browser eg IE there's a cost with all the bugs and other irritations . I'm happy to pay Opera a few bucks for a happy Internet life . And the next version, v8, now in beta (seems bug-free to me after a month's use) is better still . Check it out at www . opera . com .
stratters (2587)
306717 2005-02-23 23:31:00 Having read all the great replies I have comments:

I did get the tabbed browsing to work in Firefox OK. It’s excellent.

“Simply_Si” lightened my darkness on the e-mail forwarding ‘problem’. Understood. Makes sense. Thanks.

There seems to be a trend nudging me back towards Opera, which I liked anyway until it bit me.

“netchicken” wonders why anybody stays with IE6/OE. These hassles with changing is why! On top of that are the varying opinions on just what to change to.

Currently I’m using Firefox for Internet and OE for e-mail. If I change to Opera for Internet, what to use for e-mail? I would like to transfer across all my existing e-mail messages to whatever I change to. Similarly I would also like to transfer across all the bookmarks from Firefox. Are there ways of accomplishing these things? If so how?

Updating to Thunderbird 1.0 would not appear to be a problem (I see it’s on this month’s disc).

I find that very few sites come on screen when clicked from History, and in any case a cached site is there for a limited period, unlike Bookmarks. Incidentally trying this out drove me to distraction as I had to kill auto dial-up for every site I tried!!! Is there any way to tell whether a particular site has been cached or not?

The issue with auto dial-up is that if I open IE6 it brings up the Dial-up Connection panel where I’m given the options Connect, Settings, or Work Offline. That’s what I want with ‘an alternative browser’ if possible. I would like to avoid having to fill in data every time.

“Barnzy”’s reference to *.bat files looks a bit to technical for me!

Answering “AMD1”, I don’t have a Desktop shortcut for dial up. How do I get one (assuming I really need one)?

“netchicken” gives me an insight on losing my settings in Opera. You sure my changed version would have still been there? I uninstalled everything to do with Opera at that point!

So, it’s back to Opera for another whirl and I’ll stay with OE for e-mail pro tem.
Mike S (1766)
306718 2005-02-24 07:03:00 With Opera 8 due out any day now, all bets are off ............. TonyF (246)
306719 2005-03-03 04:49:00 Following up on some of the suggestions presented, with "Always dial my default connection" and with "Dial whenever a network connection is not present” When I open Firefox it hoes straight into dialling itself, with no input from me. With "Never dial a connection" as the setting I get a box with the message “xtramsn.co.nz could not be found. Please check the name and try again.”

Currently I don’t know how to open a network connection if the browser doesn't do it for me, but that may be soluble with a Desktop shortcut as mentioned by ‘AMD1’. I don’t currently have such a shortcut and it may provide the solution I'm looking for. Unfortunately the later explanation as to how to do it confused me somewhat. Besides which I hate to admit I have not run SP2 yet due to back up problems.

I'm surprised at 'Ruffian’s comment on Firefox being unable to auto-dial, to date my beef has been unable to stop it. Currently in 'Internet options/ Connections/ Settings/ Properties/ Options’, the check boxes currently have ‘Display progress....’ checked and nothing else checked. With IE6 I get the panel that gives me the there options: -
Connect
Settings
Work offline

In Firefox I don't get this panel up at all. It just dives straight into dialling.

If it's external factors that are getting in my way how do I find them?

Re disconnecting after e-mail I just right-click on the "two-little screens" mini-icon on the very bottom of the screen and click disconnect. In this respect I can't see a problem. However, as I've mentioned before, if I do that then either Firefox or Thunderbird spontaneously decides to do a dial-up again later.

Meantime, after reading the browser evaluations in this month's ‘NZ PC World’ I have made the decision to stay with Firefox anyway.
Mike S (1766)
306720 2005-03-03 08:01:00 I really don't know why anyone seriously uses IE any more, its just old buggy technology
I stick to the old buggy technology because it is the only one that works 100% when viewing off-line. Actually I think in the real world IE vulnerablities
are overstated. I keep my antivirus,firewall etc up to date and in the last eight years have only intercepted 2 nasties.
tutaenui (1724)
306721 2005-03-03 08:40:00 That's nice, but what about the millions of users that don't have up to date antivirus and firewall? Edward (31)
306722 2005-03-03 12:05:00 Why not?
While AVG & ZoneAlarm both offer good free downloadable versions, what's their excuse?
Laura (43)
306723 2005-04-04 03:51:00 Unless I'm connected to the Internet I cannot bring up any cached pages with Firefox. I have my cache set at 50Meg. How can I make it load cached pages whilst working off-line? Mike S (1766)
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