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307686 2005-01-19 21:08:00 Just thought I'd post an update... we seem to be getting somewhere :-)

That and I wanted to bump this thread up because Im referring to it quite a bit ;)
Chilling_Silence (9)
307687 2005-01-20 01:46:00 Okay... We've been making some progress.

He's now on a custom compiled kernel that Ive built with no worries...
Just rebuilt with the OSS modules:
[root@flaptop linux]# make.config
CHK include/linux/version.h
SPLIT include/linux/autoconf.h -> include/config/*
make[1]: `arch/i386/kernel/asm-offsets.s' is up to date.
CHK include/asm-i386/asm_offsets.h
CHK include/linux/compile.h
CC [M] sound/oss/ali5455.o
CC [M] sound/oss/ac97_codec.o
Kernel: arch/i386/boot/bzImage is ready
Building modules, stage 2.
MODPOST
CC sound/oss/ac97_codec.mod.o
LD [M] sound/oss/ac97_codec.ko
CC sound/oss/ali5455.mod.o
LD [M] sound/oss/ali5455.ko

make modules_install and modprobe them fine.
Still nothing in /dev

[root@flaptop ~]# cd /dev/
[root@flaptop dev]# ls -laR ds* soun*
ls: ds*: No such file or directory
ls: soun*: No such file or directory

Heres whats on my PC:
SuperNova dev # cd /dev
SuperNova dev # ls -laR ds* soun*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jan 20 2005 dsp -> sound/dsp
crw------- 1 josiah root 14, 19 Jul 18 2004 dsp1
crw------- 1 josiah root 14, 35 Jul 18 2004 dsp2
crw------- 1 josiah root 14, 51 Jul 18 2004 dsp3

sound:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Nov 21 12:14 .
drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 0 Jan 20 10:07 ..
crw------- 1 josiah root 14, 12 Nov 21 12:14 adsp
crw------- 1 josiah root 14, 4 Nov 21 12:14 audio
crw------- 1 josiah root 14, 3 Nov 21 12:14 dsp
crw------- 1 josiah root 14, 0 Nov 21 12:14 mixer
crw------- 1 josiah root 14, 1 Nov 21 12:14 sequencer
crw------- 1 josiah root 14, 8 Nov 21 12:14 sequencer2

Any ideas where to from here?
Chilling_Silence (9)
307688 2005-01-20 07:59:00 Still nothing in /dev

[root@flaptop ~]# cd /dev/
[root@flaptop dev]# ls -laR ds* soun*
ls: ds*: No such file or directory
ls: soun*: No such file or directory

Any ideas where to from here?Hmm ... not sure if this is helpful, but here are my /dev sound listings on a working Fedora Core 3 box (with onboard sound) which may give some clues ...

[root@myth dev]# ls -laR ds* soun*
ls: soun*: No such file or directory
crw------- 1 jennifer root 14, 3 Jan 19 09:06 dsp

[root@myth dev]
crw-rw---- 1 root root 14, 12 Jan 19 09:06 adsp
crw------- 1 jennifer root 14, 4 Jan 19 09:06 audio
crw------- 1 jennifer root 14, 0 Jan 19 09:06 mixer

[root@myth dev]# ls -laR snd
snd:
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 200 Jan 19 09:06 .
drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 7080 Jan 19 17:33 ..
crw------- 1 jennifer root 116, 0 Jan 19 09:06 controlC0
crw------- 1 jennifer root 116, 24 Jan 19 09:06 pcmC0D0c
crw------- 1 jennifer root 116, 16 Jan 19 09:06 pcmC0D0p
crw------- 1 jennifer root 116, 25 Jan 19 09:06 pcmC0D1c
crw------- 1 jennifer root 116, 26 Jan 19 09:06 pcmC0D2c
crw------- 1 jennifer root 116, 27 Jan 19 09:06 pcmC0D3c
crw------- 1 jennifer root 116, 20 Jan 19 09:06 pcmC0D4p
crw------- 1 jennifer root 116, 33 Jan 19 09:06 timer
Jen (38)
307689 2005-01-20 12:12:00 We're making progress.

Ive got an ogg file I re-encoded here and grabbed from my http site
ogg123 plays it to alsa AND oss without complaint but it appears as thou no sound still.

To get /dev entries I had to modprobe snd-pcm-oss which is OSS legacy devices for ALSA.
ALSA appears to be setup fine however :)

Question is... what next.... they play but no output is heard still :(

I tried in #fedora on freenode but they were of little help.


Chill.
Chilling_Silence (9)
307690 2005-01-20 19:28:00 There is one change in the way flaptop boots up, and yes its that disturbing fatal sounding chirp the machine makes

Before the custom kernel was installed, when booting up in fedora, i got to the bit that says:
initializing hardware storage network audio done [OK]
------------and the machine made a sharp desturbing chirp at "audio".

Now i have the same noize, but one line before. The line says something like "starting udev"
Sorry if this is not 100% accurate description, but i have no pen & paper unless i get out of bed, which aint happening till at least 09:00.

Is there anyway of checking to see if that noize is the result of the total takeover of sound by some clever but utterly pointless idea initiated by default at FC3 bootup?

:D
personthingy (1670)
307691 2005-07-01 08:28:00 There's a simpler way... you'll notice in alsamixer that even though you adjust the level of <PC Speak> ( the PC speakers ), it still shows as [Off]. Hit the CAPITAL M twice in succession to turn the speakers on ( <shift>M, <shift>M ).

-Allen
allen_panther (6674)
307692 2005-07-01 16:20:00 Seeing this thread had resurfaced, i may as well write the conclusion.

Not long after my last post i gave up.

Chill made some fine remote efforts but sadly allthough the operations appeared to be a success, the patient was quite dead.
No sound could be heard.
A live distro would bring sound back to life, but as soon as i went back to running FC3 it was as if the speakers had been disconnected. Nada.

I will not get to test the "M,M" command suggested by allen_panther, as i have switched to MEPIS, and all hardware compatability issues have now gone.

Its quite possible that FC4 has got this bug sorted. Again i will never know as i am not going to install a new OS on my one machine for the sake of an expererment.

Thankyou to all who helped in the various attempts to sort this problem.
personthingy (1670)
307693 2005-07-02 01:46:00 Its quite possible that FC4 has got this bug sorted. Again i will never know as i am not going to install a new OS on my one machine for the sake of an expererment.



And you call your self a linux user :D
Sam I Am (1679)
307694 2005-07-02 03:14:00 That's the sort of user to be encouraged.

He's a Linux user. He wants his computer to work. Why install a new OS now he's got a working system?

I'm a Linux user too. I've been using it for more than 10 years. I tried loading FC3 on the last box I installed. It didn't. I installed Mandrake. I'm not prepared to waste time on a "New Improved Better User Fiendly" if it doesn't, for non-obvious reasons, work for me Life is too short..
Graham L (2)
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