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Thread ID: 135729	2013-12-05 15:03:00	any PC, $1000 upgrade, ethical?	Mirddes (10)	PC World Chat

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1361759	2013-12-09 11:41:00	ive not been in school for more than half a decade i already did, now i upgrade and build computers and speculate about technologies. my days of attempting to fix broken computers are long behind me. i am more than happy to consult with those that do and inspire them with my words. anyhow i think ill build a nice gaming pc out of components i already have and the addition of 4 components for less than $370 Asus H81M-E for $88 from paradigm Intel Pentium G3220 3.0Ghz for $88.90 from playtech 120GB kingston SSD for $123.89 from playtech KINGSTON VALUE 4GB DDR3-1600 DIMM NON-ECC for $65 from pcforce with further sales of my collection of parts capital may be easy to raise over the next few months. i have the case, psu, optical drive and a kvm so im all set to have a decent machine with quite a lot of upgrade potential with this in mind i would still say a $100-200 upgrade to existing components is reasonable value, looking at anything more that cannot be transitioned to an upgrade such as what i contemplate would be misplaced. the only component that would fall with an old pc is outdated ram, everything else i have suggested is worth of inclusion in the above upgrade. (hd touchscreen, ssd, usb3+cardreader, TB hdd, windows license) snide remarks help no one.	Mirddes (10)
1361760	2013-12-09 11:53:00	Asus H81M-E for $88 from paradigm Intel Pentium G3220 3.0Ghz for $88.90 from playtech 120GB kingston SSD for $123.89 from playtech KINGSTON VALUE 4GB DDR3-1600 DIMM NON-ECC for $65 from pcforce seems all 4 parts can be gotten from dtconline.co.nz for $348; they even offer repayment options with a deposit.	Mirddes (10)
1361761	2013-12-09 13:11:00	I don't see what the obsession is over USB ports, Especially putting USB3 ports in old computers. Even card readers, who actually uses these? Touch screen - Wouldn't bother, even with windows 8. Decent computer parts are cheap as chips now days. I spent ~1500 on a mobo, 4770, 32GB ram, 64GB SSD OS Drive, 240GB SSD VM Drive. It will last its 4 - 5 years, But by then technology would of moved on and it will be time to replace the lot, which will probably be a 100x better. No point throwing money at old hardware.	JoshyEee (17039)
1361762	2013-12-09 13:15:00	I don't see what the obsession is over USB ports, Especially putting USB3 ports in old computers. Even card readers, who actually uses these? Touch screen - Wouldn't bother, even with windows 8. Decent computer parts are cheap as chips now days. I spent ~1500 on a mobo, 4770, 32GB ram, 64GB SSD OS Drive, 240GB SSD VM Drive. It will last its 4 - 5 years, But by then technology would of moved on and it will be time to replace the lot, which will probably be a 100x better. No point throwing money at old hardware. usb2 is really really slow. i remember lots of old pcs getting usb2 ports via pci cards back in the day. put usb2 in a pentium3 and its much more useful; put usb3 and a card reader in a athlon64X2 and its much more useful. as for card readers it is much easier to pop a card out of a device than hunt for a cable, not to mention the lack of clutter. otherwise it gets messy when trying to move data from say a camera to a tablet or any other example consisting of more than 1 device. id only bother with windows 8 and a touchscreen if they were paired together. neither one on their own. whoever gets your pc in 4-5 years will probably use it for just as long, if not longer. the average gaming pc needs not even an optical drive these days. the average end user appreciates numerous front usb ports, an optical drive and a card reader much more than you'd expect. (my mum's card reader features a single usb3 port and uses a single usb3 header, very fast)	Mirddes (10)
1361763	2013-12-09 18:30:00	now i upgrade and build computers and speculate about technologies. Asus H81M-E for $88 from paradigm Intel Pentium G3220 3.0Ghz for $88.90 from playtech 120GB kingston SSD for $123.89 from playtech KINGSTON VALUE 4GB DDR3-1600 DIMM NON-ECC for $65 from pcforce If you do run a business why would you buy parts retail, businesses use wholesale suppliers.	pctek (84)
1361764	2013-12-09 19:03:00	You can always tell when school's out for the year, huh? Hehe.. sure can :)	Webdevguy (17166)
1361765	2013-12-09 19:12:00	ive not been in school for more than half a decade i already did, now i upgrade and build computers and speculate about technologies. I definitely enjoy technology, I just like to stay in touch with what is relevant :) For a guy who likes to "speculate" about technologies you seem to spend a surprising amount of time considering ways to flog a dead horse (aka rebuild an irrellevant PC that has been superceded by newer technology) I'm not sure if you had noticed but a lot of small businesses that had built their business around fixing and building desktop PCs are struggling to stay in business due to slowing demand for their services and bigger corporates like Dell, Lenovo, IBM, HP are all moving their services into the cloud or figuring out how to become a software business in order to help their struggling PC business which has had to transform in to a mobile device business. Do you have any interest in writing software?	Webdevguy (17166)
1361766	2013-12-09 20:16:00	usb2 is really really slow. No no no, USB 1.1 is really slow. USB 2.0 is still good enough for a lot of usage.	pcuser42 (130)
1361767	2013-12-09 20:31:00	usb2 is really really slow. compared to what ?? Please justify that slow compared to av real life external Hard Drive write speed : no slow compared to printer speed : no slow compared to av USB flash drive write speed : no slow compared to the av PC's RAM speed : no But USB3 cards are cheap so its no big deal I guess i am more than happy to consult with those that do and inspire them with my words. Entertained yes, not sure youve inspired . ;)	1101 (13337)
1361768	2013-12-09 20:41:00	I'm not sure if you had noticed but a lot of small businesses that had built their business around fixing and building desktop PCs are struggling to stay in business due to slowing demand for their services Yep, I imagine I'll be out of a job within 6months or less. PC repair business is looking pretty grim. Its not easy to pickup new corporate clients , they almost allways already have IT support. Home user market has really dried up . Other repair/install industries are also struggling. When I first started here, many years ago, there was too much work, our company had a 7+ day backlog of jobs in the que. :crying	1101 (13337)
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