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309445 2005-01-02 10:23:00 Generic host process for win32 (or something to that effect) is attempting to access the internet. In most cases if Windows was not running unneccessary processes Generic host process for win32 would not be trying to access the net.
It is a mugs game going on the net without a decent firewall.
mikebartnz (21)
309446 2005-01-02 18:01:00 JJJJJ: The WinXP Firewall (In answer to the origional question, and confirming what you've said) is sufficient for a _lot_ of things, but personally I dont trust Doze because I cant see the inner workings of it.



Chill. I'm sure that most of us don't want to see it working.
I just want to install something and forget about it. I don't get viruses therefore it must be working.
I have SP2 and NAV and they seem to do the job. They work together.
When I installed my ADSL modem it KINDLY activated it's own firewall.
Unfortunately it would not allow me to send or receive E-mail. This is a problem I can do without!
I de-activated the firewall and all is OK again. But if I switch the modem power off. Next time I start the firewall is back. So I just leave modem switched on.
Seems the modem doesn't like SP2.
Jack
JJJJJ (528)
309447 2005-01-02 18:12:00 We need moderators that delete such bollocks when it gets written so poor advice doesn't get spread around. :stare: :stare:

So are me to believe that Eljim is the only person who doesn't write "BOLLOCKS"?
Jack
JJJJJ (528)
309448 2005-01-02 20:50:00 I de-activated the firewall and all is OK again. But if I switch the modem power off. Next time I start the firewall is back.
Did you save the settings after deactivating the firewall?
FoxyMX (5)
309449 2005-01-02 21:54:00 What do you mean by what module? The executable will be running and making the call, Ive seen it done, and Ive seen it pass through the firewall.... Zone Alarm, Kerio, Symantec etc

Im not trying to be negative or anything, just asking for a little clarification :)

no prob chill ;-)

a good example is spyware useing IE to access the net. even tho it uses IE most decent firewalls will actually pickup that another exe is trying to access through IE. basicly keeps tabs on what dll's etc that are in use, what process is uesd etc. i can dig up the exact info but it will take me ages to go refind it all again. the other way which u mention was to infect the iexplorer.exe and yes if its infected BEFORE you put the firewall on, the firewall and user won't notice unless you happen to pick up that its connecting on its own (ie you havn't open up a browser and its trying to connect. perfect indication of an infection)
tweak'e (69)
309450 2005-01-03 03:39:00 i dont ever need to touch my firewall, well maybe once a month if there is an update, it just runs in the background, using zone alarm

say if you have a hardware firewall would you still need a software based firewall?
Prescott (11)
309451 2005-01-03 03:51:00 say if you have a hardware firewall would you still need a software based firewall?
a hardware firewal won't control applications so yes you will still need one.

btw isn't a hardware firewall simply a bit of software running on hardware much like a software firewall running on a pc ?? :thumbs: ;)
tweak'e (69)
309452 2005-01-03 03:55:00 Thanks Tweak'e :)

Actually, a lot of hardware firewalls, such as routers etc run Linux and use iptables. IIRC some Linksys routers do too... Its just embedded linux.

My next question:
Why is the Linux firewall situation so pathetic? I know there's like 3 or 4 different firewalls...... they all are simply front-ends for iptables AFAIK.
Chilling_Silence (9)
309453 2005-01-03 04:17:00 JJJJJ, you need to adjust ZA so that it is not throwing up trivial alerts . Once you are satisfied with whats accessing the net, just let it get on with it without telling you each time . Same with Adaware, uncheck the check for cookies bit if you don't want it to do so .

They are tools that you have to spend, at least some, time learning to get the best out of, like any tool . The thing about firewalls, is that they do their job by checking types of activity, antivirus, in the main, uses definitions to target a particular beastie, quite different and for different purposes .

As has been mentioned, a NAT router will get you a long way towards being protected from incoming unwanted connections . If your just running a broadband modem (PCI usually or USB) then your going to be more vulnerable and get alot more unspecified connection attempts which a firewall will go nuts over . Essentially, what you want the software firewall for is outgoing if you have a NAt router or dialup .

Chill, wnat abeta tester? I can break most things without trying (hope your debugger is robust ;) )
Murray P (44)
309454 2005-01-03 22:04:00 Thanks Tweak'e :)

Actually, a lot of hardware firewalls, such as routers etc run Linux and use iptables. IIRC some Linksys routers do too... Its just embedded linux.

My next question:
Why is the Linux firewall situation so pathetic? I know there's like 3 or 4 different firewalls...... they all are simply front-ends for iptables AFAIK.

i thought there was a linux personall firewall in devolpment at sourceforge. however i suspect linux dosn't have the huge amount of scumware like windows has to deal with, linux users normally set things up fairly tight and most (but not all) linux installs don't have a lot of unneeded crap running (unlike windows). however a linux firewall with app control would be great.
tweak'e (69)
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