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| Thread ID: 53031 | 2005-01-05 21:52:00 | XP SP2: Dirty Installations... | camo (4895) | Press F1 |
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| 311026 | 2005-01-05 21:52:00 | Hi, XP SP2 has been "installed" on one of my machines, but it seems that it has not completely installed. Elements of SP2 are present, but SP2 itself does not even appear in the "Add/Remove Programs" list. Visio 2003 will not run anymore, and when I tried to uninstall it (to reinstall) it won't let me. It tells me that there is an incomplete Service Pack installation present. Ideas? |
camo (4895) | ||
| 311027 | 2005-01-05 22:44:00 | Have a look at this page How to remove Windows XP Service Pack 2 from your computer support.microsoft.com hth |
johnboy (217) | ||
| 311028 | 2005-01-05 23:21:00 | Hi, If you have uninstalled sp2, you will then need to download sp1 as xp has to have at least a service pack, for it to work. |
pc_doctor (6775) | ||
| 311029 | 2005-01-06 00:55:00 | Hi, If you have uninstalled sp2, you will then need to download sp1 as xp has to have at least a service pack, for it to work. Eh? For what to work? |
PcNut (6639) | ||
| 311030 | 2005-01-06 17:50:00 | Eh? For what to work? XP needs a service pack as there are files needed in this servcie pack for windows xp work work properly. Service pack 2 uses files from service pack 1 to install correctly as the files get overwritten with the latest information. When sp2 is installed it would be a big file if it didnt use the other files from sp1 to install correctly |
pc_doctor (6775) | ||
| 311031 | 2005-01-06 17:58:00 | XP needs a service pack as there are files needed in this servcie pack for windows xp work work properly. Service pack 2 uses files from service pack 1 to install correctly as the files get overwritten with the latest information. When sp2 is installed it would be a big file if it didnt use the other files from sp1 to install correctly Can you provide some solid intell with links to back up these statments: XP needs a service pack Service pack 2 uses files from service pack 1 to install correctly When sp2 is installed it would be a big file if it didnt use the other files from sp1 to install correctly as find find them all a little off. D. |
drb1 (4492) | ||
| 311032 | 2005-01-06 18:10:00 | Hi, XP SP2 has been "installed" on one of my machines, but it seems that it has not completely installed . Elements of SP2 are present, but SP2 itself does not even appear in the "Add/Remove Programs" list . Visio 2003 will not run anymore, and when I tried to uninstall it (to reinstall) it won't let me . It tells me that there is an incomplete Service Pack installation present . Ideas? Camo, As a long shot, although I belive service pack instalation nukes it did you have a pre sp restore point and have you tried it . As the SP install is incomplete, restore may still be available . Back up remove your data before you try any of this or any more/other fixes . If sp2 wont uninstall you could look at a repair install or trying to install sp2 again over the top of the mess . but you should have a copy of all drivers, programs, and S# before you try any of this . If sp2 wont uninstall it may be simpler to do a clean install, instead of trying other fixes as there will allways be some ugly bits lying around after something like this . D . |
drb1 (4492) | ||
| 311033 | 2005-01-06 18:11:00 | Can you provide some solid intell with links to back up these statments: XP needs a service pack Service pack 2 uses files from service pack 1 to install correctly When sp2 is installed it would be a big file if it didnt use the other files from sp1 to install correctly as find find them all a little off . D . If you had a new xp computer when xp was released it would of had a sp . If you look at the installation when xp2 is installed it looks at the folder where sp1 was, and when installed it has files stored in a different folder but realates back to sp1 files that dont need to be changed . The third thing you asked is above as well as sp2 needs too look at the files to see what it has got and whether to update them or not . |
pc_doctor (6775) | ||
| 311034 | 2005-01-06 18:39:00 | If you had a new xp computer when xp was released it would of had a sp . If you look at the installation when xp2 is installed it looks at the folder where sp1 was, and when installed it has files stored in a different folder but realates back to sp1 files that dont need to be changed . The third thing you asked is above as well as sp2 needs too look at the files to see what it has got and whether to update them or not . The sp2 disk ex M/S is a stand alone disk it does not need anything or any other service pack to allow it to install . The SP2 disk installs normally on a version of XP PRO pre the SP1 release with no SP installed at all . I have a pre SP 1 version of XP pro and have done this in severall experiments . There was much discussion during the beta and early SP2 release period about SP2, and what the disk contained, and weather SP1 HAD to be installed before SP2 was installed . It was made clear with various links to M/S documentation that SP2 did not require SP1 as SP2 contains ALL the files still relevent from SP1 a standard M/S modus operandi . This information is all still on Forum . I didnt ask you anythink except to quantify your statments about SP2 with links/evidence as I found them "A little OFF" . I may not like SP2 or what it does I do however play with it and all three of the major versions of XP PRO FPP which I legally own . Still hunting for a legall corp version at the wright price for experimentation though . I personally find XP PRO with NO service pack NO UPDATES a good firewall and good antivirus, adobae 5 and firefox to be the most reliable xp of all . Next to 2K pro with or without sp4 which still spank's XP any day of the week . If you know anything about this family, you will know, if you start stripping back the layers you can revert them through each other all the way back to NT . D . |
drb1 (4492) | ||
| 311035 | 2005-01-06 23:17:00 | Success! I had to re-install SP1 first . SP1 came included with my original installation CD, but for some reason, it wasn't completely installed . Windows Update told me that it was installed, so I could only download it as an "optional" update, as opposed to a "critical" one . Once this was downloaded and installed, and I could install all other Windows updates and fixes . I could now uninstall Visio 2003 (before I couldn't, because of the "incomplete SP installation), as it had to be reinstalled for the Visio Office updates from the site to successfully install . When SP1 was installed, my USB mouse wouldn't work, so i've used a PS/2 one in the meantime . I had the same problem when I tried to install SP2 . It's aonly a small glitch, and i'm sure once I download the drivers, the USB will spring back to life . I COULD install SP2 now, (the SP2 elements are still present in Windows, even though it has been uninstalled, and Windows Update wants me to install it) but i'm wary too . If I put this computer out of action again, I might be hung up by my heels, and lashed with wire whips . Thanks for your help, O' mighty IT Wizards . . . . . Camo . . . . . . |
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