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312454	2005-01-12 09:07:00	Reinstalling Windows completely can be annoying though, don't forget that. However, you might achieve the "Firefox came with Windows so we have to use it" effect. ;)	agent (30)
312455	2005-01-12 13:36:00	i wouldent mind seeing that it realy does sound evil I really would show you, but my server's latest virus definitions mean that the second I copy over to \\jg-srv4\d\domains\jgi.co.nz\wwwroot .... it deletes it again, within a second. Grrr. But ninja is writing a FF vs IE article which IMO should be very interesting, and he is using my code. So you might get to see it then ;)	george12 (7)
312456	2005-01-12 13:38:00	Why the hell would anyone still be using IE as their main browser anyway? Some people just plain and simple prefer it. It's just something that we people who "know better", myself included, who think/know FF is so much better, just have to accept in some cases. Having said that, I don't know any practical reasons for using IE over FF...	george12 (7)
312457	2005-01-12 20:36:00	because they dont know better Or perhaps those who do know better, but not only find that for their modest needs IE is an acceptable browser in terms of its general functionality, but also: sit behind Nat Routers, operate a reliable firewall for both incoming and outgoing traffic, do not visit Warez, Adult or any other dubious sites, don't open any attachment without checking what it is beforehand - even from trusted sources, scan all downloads, preview all email while still on the server and delete suspicious items without downloading, keep IE up to date with all patches (even those that are a long time coming), maintain an up to date AV program and scan for adware etc regularly and do not provide dialler access to a phone line. Cross fingers, in 10 years of operating up to six computers on line at any time I have never experienced any kind of infection or exploit. I have had a couple of scares that turned out to be internal problems, but nothing nasty has ever taken hold. Seems to me that the bad guys don't just exploit browser weaknesses, they also exploit the weaknesses of the PBTK. Using IE is not an automatic kiss of death. Cheers Billy 8-{) :2cents:	Billy T (70)
312458	2005-01-12 23:38:00	That's true. But if the only thing FF had over IE was security.... There are SO MANY other things I would never give up that IE just doesn't have. Like tabbed browsing etc - extensions, browsing speed (not a massive gain but definitely faster), better DL manager, about:config (let's see IE offer that level of configuration!).	george12 (7)
312459	2005-01-12 23:43:00	No, it's not a kiss of death, more like a grueling torture. I haven't installed a single update from Microsoft for at least a year on my XP computer, simply because I have a virus scanner that automatically updates and a good firewall. I don't have any desire to turn on Windows Automatic Updates and I can't use Windows Update - but my computer is stable and secure for all my needs. I don't want to go through the stringent practice of keeping everything up-to-date just so I can continue to use Microsoft products and not be scared about security risks.	agent (30)
312460	2005-01-13 03:27:00	Or perhaps those who do know better, but not only find that for their modest needs IE is an acceptable browser in terms of its general functionality Billy, if you are happy with Internet Explorer then that is great, stick with it. But to say that IE is as good functionally as Opera or Firefox means that you cannot have tried either for any length of time. ;) I am not trying to convince you to change but the rare times that I am forced to use IE it irritates me so much when it can't do tabbed browsing (THE cats' whiskers!!), the keyboard shortcuts are VERY limited, it doesn't do mouse gestures, the bookmarks are soooo much more inferior, I cannot customise and fine tune it to my preferences, yadda yadda yadda... Oh, and it is noticeably slower as well. Even if you forget the security benefits Opera is a million times better than IE any day. Horses for courses though, as usual - ya gotta use what suits ya. :thumbs:	FoxyMX (5)
312461	2005-01-13 03:34:00	If you can't convince him Susan then nobody can.	Safari (3993)
312462	2005-01-13 06:41:00	Billy, if you are happy with Internet Explorer then that is great, stick with it . But to say that IE is as good functionally as Opera or Firefox means that you cannot have tried either for any length of time . ;) My-oh-my Sis! *cough* I didn't actually say it was as good in functionality, I said "for their modest needs IE is an acceptable browser in terms of its general functionality" . I haven't said what browser I prefer either, and intentionally so, because the purpose of my post was to gently point out that there are lots of businesses and mum 'n pop users who are quite happy with IE . Maybe they don't know any different, but until they come to PF1 they probably will remain blissfully ignorant and perfectly happy, vexing as that concept may be to converts who would like everybody to enjoy the undoubted advantages of some other options . I have a variety of options open to me for all types of programs and I use whatever is best suited to the immediate purpose, i . e . referring to another thread I have just posted in, sometimes I use Windows Explorer, and other times I use ZTree . For me Explorer is the Fiat Bambina, and ZTree is the Humvee (military edition) . I just don't think that there is call for anybody to get all het up about other peoples' software choices . Cheers Billy Bro 8-{)	Billy T (70)
312463	2005-01-13 07:22:00	I just don't think that there is call for anybody to get all het up about other peoples' software choices. Just as well because I never did gel with that ZTree program of yours. :p :D	FoxyMX (5)
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