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Thread ID: 53254	2005-01-12 02:31:00	DVD to SVCD - a curly question	m_pav (6721)	Press F1

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313179	2005-01-12 02:31:00	I have 7 DVD Disks with 17+ hours of video seminar on them in total. Ripping them to SVCD is no problem, but what I want to know is..... (I'll try my best to explain clearly what I desire) Is it possible to burn a DVD disk with several SVCD files to play in succession? Just in case there is any confusion... I have been burning stacks of these 7 x DVD sets, and if I get an order for more than a few sets, by the time I have burnt and verified each disk, made the covers and packaged them, a good portion of my day is gone. What's more, I'm doing this on a voluntary basis, so I'd like to cut costs and save myself a huge portion of my time. What I'd like to do is to convert each hour of seminar to SVCD format and make a seminar set consisting of 3 DVD disks, with 6 hours of content on each disk using the SVCD format. The time saving alone from using this method to create the seminar disks, if it is possible, would be 57% per set. Furthermore, if it is possible, I may be able to lift the playback quality of the standard SVCD by raising the sampling rate, because I would no longer be bound by the 700Mb limit per disk (if they were to be written to CD) OK - Anybody got any ideas? Maybe PC World could cover this in one of their columns if it's possible?	m_pav (6721)
313180	2005-01-12 03:43:00	I cant see why you cant.. Depending on how big / how long each svcd / seminar is. Just use Nerovision, or something like Ulead DVD moviefactory (well any video editing program), should let u "add on" to the end of a video. So its continuous. It'll be the verifying that'll be time consuming. Disable it. If it works now it should work later. If you're using a CD writer, it might be better to buy a DVD burner, or a double layer burner.	Speedy Gonzales (78)
313181	2005-01-12 04:18:00	I have 7 DVD Disks with 17+ hours of video seminar on them in total . Ripping them to SVCD is no problem, but what I want to know is . . . . . (I'll try my best to explain clearly what I desire) Is it possible to burn a DVD disk with several SVCD files to play in succession? Yes Just in case there is any confusion . . . I have been burning stacks of these 7 x DVD sets, and if I get an order for more than a few sets, by the time I have burnt and verified each disk, made the covers and packaged them, a good portion of my day is gone . What's more, I'm doing this on a voluntary basis, so I'd like to cut costs and save myself a huge portion of my time . What I'd like to do is to convert each hour of seminar to SVCD format and make a seminar set consisting of 3 DVD disks, with 6 hours of content on each disk using the SVCD format . The time saving alone from using this method to create the seminar disks, if it is possible, would be 57% per set . Furthermore, if it is possible, I may be able to lift the playback quality of the standard SVCD by raising the sampling rate, because I would no longer be bound by the 700Mb limit per disk (if they were to be written to CD) OK - Anybody got any ideas? Maybe PC World could cover this in one of their columns if it's possible?If they are already on DVD why dont you just copy the DVD instead of ripping to SVCD .	Rob99 (151)
313182	2005-01-12 04:52:00	Thanks heaps for your answer . Just some additional notes in case somebody else has already tried this, and can give me some more feedback . Concerning verifying, I write the DVD's to an ISO image, then burn from that . I verify each disk I write because I don't want to send out faulty disks . Ever been to http://www . cdfreaks . com/ to see just how many errors are written to optical disks? I have had a number of returns before updating my drives firmware . I have a standard DVD Writer and a dual layer burner, but the dl media is a drop dead rip-off, so I am concentrating on standard single layer disks . I have been using Nero and at first, I tried recoding the disks but found Nero's mp4 format was proprietry, and it's not suitable for playing through set-top players . I also found the quality to be sadly lacking, with jpeg compression artefacts all throughout the compressed video . That's why I am trying SVCD . The quality is superior, and it can be played on almost all set-top players . I want to use the SVCD template to make a DVD version with the seminar files intact, not stitched together, with menu selections for the different portions of the seminar . That's where I wonder if there will be compatibility errors, and if this endeavour will be at all possible . I have Nero 6 (full) and a variety of other burning apps, including some in Linux .	m_pav (6721)
313183	2005-01-12 05:01:00	First, thanks for your answer YesIf they are already on DVD why dont you just copy the DVD instead of ripping to SVCD. Second, the reason for not copying the DVD's is in my first post, I need to cut down the time and expenses required takes to make the copies. I am a student with no financial backing and I'm doing this all out of my own pocket on a volunteer basis.	m_pav (6721)
313184	2005-01-12 05:21:00	You seem to have a few misconceptions about what your doing.... Its impossible to rip to SVCD,You can author to svcd,Its not a file format,its a standasised format for authing a video cd so that hardware can play them. The files themselves are mpeg. You can of course rip to mpeg is so desired,But you cant then author to svcd on a dvd,svcd is a video CD standard not dvd. You would instead author a DVD and whatever levels of compression are required will be calculated by your authoring program and applied,If you want to fit 6 hours on,can be done,but compression will take its toll.	EdtheHead (6849)
313185	2005-01-12 05:34:00	DVD Shrink ( . dvdshrink . org/what . htm" target="_blank">www . dvdshrink . org) may be what your after . I can't remember how I found this site but I think I found a link to it through ISO Buster which may also be worth looking at . I'm not into video at all, so could be well off the mark, just a hunch from my travels .	Murray P (44)
313186	2005-01-12 10:47:00	You seem to have a few misconceptions about what your doing . . . . I don't have any misconceptions about what I am doing, I was just saving myself time because I had to race out the door when I was using the terminology rip to svcd . I have been aware of the standards and have read alot about them over the last year as I have researched the subject . I also realise there are unwritten rules about what you can and can't do, so why not push the boundaries to expand knowlege . There has to be a way . Thomas Edison found 3000+ ways things couldn't be done before he invented the light bulb . I'm not sure if you read my earlier posts, but just in case you didn't, I was asking if it was possible to burn a SVCD format type of disk using a DVD, but with 6 times the information of a standard 700mb CD, or 6 hours of digital video that is set-top playable . Rob99 seems to think it may be possible, and I have nothing to lose but time while I wait for college to restart, because I intend to try it out using rewritable disks . I have already put 27 hours of video onto a 4 . 7Gb Data DVD Disk, but this is only computer readable though it can be viewed through a TV or projector through the supervideo or TV-Out port, and as you say, the video and audio compression take a big hit with most of it at 320x230@512kbps . The video quality is approximately the same or better than our standard TV (with our pathetically weak signals, we only get 2 1/2 channels) . If it doesn't work out, then I'll try to find another way, and if I fall flat on my face, then I'll be in a better position to assist others on matters like this on PressF1 . And Thanks to MurrayP for the suggestion of DVDShrink . I knew there was one out there, but I couldn't remember its name . I think I have a copy on CD from a PC mag .	m_pav (6721)
313187	2005-01-12 10:55:00	You can use 'Nero Recode' to burn 2 or 3 SVCD's with a menu that you make with 'Nero Recode' to DVD or ISO. hmmm... I will check it out later for sure as soon as the disc I'm ripping has finished.	Rob99 (151)
313188	2005-01-12 11:31:00	Cheers Rob99. Just downloaded the latest Nero updates, will try. I have a variety of CD burning packages and DVD authoring suites I can use. One of them is sure to work if Nero doesn't, and there's always the Linux variants, of which I have a few. Nero writes *.nrg files which can be converted to iso using a utility I saw in my SuSE9.2 installation, but I can't remember what the package is called. I think there's a Debian package that does the same thing too.	m_pav (6721)
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