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Thread ID: 53293	2005-01-13 07:00:00	Replacing Int/Onboard Graphics with vid card	J ZEP (336)	Press F1

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313643	2005-01-14 09:27:00	thats corrrect godfather, ive heard that too, some branded pc's are very fussy about the type of graphics card it accepts. remove the cmos battery and clear the cmos, take out the graphics card and put it in again, and see what happens	Prescott (11)
313644	2005-01-14 09:32:00	i think this is simialr to whats in ur mobo compared to mine. i a found in mine that under PCI Config. a setting - onbard vga(completely seperate setting) - enable/diasble - try to find this in ur bios - i have award bios as well so it should be similar oh i did meant to completely reset ur mobo b4 & put the new card in b4 cheers	fryup (3762)
313645	2005-01-16 06:54:00	Thanks Guys, muchly appreciated help so far :thumbs: . I am thinking perhaps GF and Prescott are maybe on the right track, with it not liking my flavour graphics card, which by the way is a: Nvidia GeForce4 MX420 Have searched alot over the past few days with key words - Hp/Pav. compatible vid/graphics cards etc... to no avail :annoyed:. I did however finally come across the mobo manual/s last night :thumbs:, so i will have a good look through those over next day too. As well as the fact i have decided to try and get hold of another Graphics card to try if poss, even if he has to buy one on the proviso that it may need to be returned, as it may not work (don't know how well that will go down with a shop though), it would be better if i could just find out which brands/models cards are known to work in these though first, so i will try ringing HP again tomorrow and see if i get any more joy. One last question for you though - with regard to the cmos and clearing it etc... fryup and Prescott seem to vary on how to do this if i am reading them correctly. Could somebody please just clarify for me: A: Do i return it to normal - i.e NO external/agp card in (just the normal onboard graphics setup) - Then without the card in, reset/clear the cmos? Then once reset put in the AGP vid card. or B: Put the AGP card in first, then reset/clear the cmos? Thanks :)	J ZEP (336)
313646	2005-01-16 07:03:00	doesnt matter, just take the battery out for 10min, then reboot. come to think of it, all branded pc's have their own type of "modified" bios, is it possible to flash a different version of the bios that doesnt include the brand? ie google motherboard number then get update and flash it, that could work. its just like the pc company and their recovery disks, that disk matches that pc, if you flash the bios with a different version it looses the ability to use that recovery disk, it was mentioned in a old thread that was bumped up about a week ago. what you guys reckon, i think it could work, not too sure though	Prescott (11)
313647	2005-01-18 23:43:00	Well i have tried everything now, to no avail :help: (Clearing cmos made no difference either). So i am guessing it means the mobo is faulty/needs replacing, which seems to be the general consensus from HP and a couple of the local shops i have spoken too. Which is obviously major and they are quoting the likes of up to $700 + to fix/try fixing it :horrified . This is probably beyond my current skills, especially on somebody elses computer - so it will be a shop job i think. Can anybody tell me what else will need to be replaced if the mobo needs to be replaced? (Working on the theory of finding the same mobo thats in it now, if thats possible, of course) - ( I had presumed they would just be able to replace the mobo and put the other working parts back in e.g cpu, psu etc...) However one of the shops mentioned it would mean replacing other things as well? Its sounding rather major, any body got any suggestions? I can't even really recommend any local shops to my friend, from personal experience, as its been so long since i have had to have anything done at a shop instead of doing it myself? Can anybody recommend a good Puter shop in the Palmy North region? We have several to choose from now - "Inhouse", "Absolutely", "Advantage", to name a few... So if anybody can recommend anybody in paticular, that would be of interest to us. Cheers	J ZEP (336)
313648	2005-01-18 23:48:00	its not faulty, its because its a branded pc and it is picky about the cards it likes,i still think that getting a different bios might work so it thinks that its not a HP anymore.......... suggestions?? oh and its highly likely that a new mobo wont fit in that hp case due to the brackets and the screw holes being all different	Prescott (11)
313649	2005-01-18 23:49:00	$700? oh my giddy aunt. The price of a new board $90 to $135 for a budget model,$150 to $300 for something sweet,a board around the $200 mark with be the mutts nutts. Fitting,1 hour,$40 to $80 Complications may arise it getting windows to work after the refit though, But you can either try and configure it yourself and get it re-activated or let the shop do it,again 1 hour,$40 to $80 So in the best case situation,You should be able to get it done for$150 bucks.....	Metla (12)
313650	2005-01-18 23:53:00	You can't flash a oem HP board with a manufactures bios,It will kill it dead,or at least is likely to do so. I supose it can't hurt if your going to write the board off anyhow, If it did work you would still have issues getting XP reloaded in the future,as any recovery software will no longer recorgnise the board. If you curent case is a non statard size then add $50 to $150 to cover the budget.	Metla (12)
313651	2005-01-18 23:53:00	its not faulty, its because its a branded pc and it is picky about the cards it likes,i still think that getting a different bios might work so it thinks that its not a HP anymore.......... suggestions?? oh and its highly likely that a new mobo wont fit in that hp case due to the brackets and the screw holes being all different It's not just the BIOS that is custom in many cases with branded PC's, the motherboard may have variations as well, so a generic BIOS for that motherboard may not work. If you replace the motherboard with a non-HP of any type, remember that the recovery CD's will not work. You will need a new Operating System. As well as RAM most probably if the new motherboard uses a different speed, plus CPU....	godfather (25)
313652	2005-01-18 23:57:00	Well....his cpu is a 2.66,so it won't be any issue getting a mobo that will run his cpu and ram. As to the Recovery scam, I just yesterday replaced the mobo in a compaq,Loaded on XP from a slipstreamed cd i had made,and used the cd key on the sticker already attached to the box and much to my surprise it was up and running. Took me by complete surprise.	Metla (12)
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