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Thread ID: 135863	2013-12-20 05:33:00	Trade In price.	Cicero (40)	PC World Chat

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1363145	2013-12-21 04:38:00	Gutless is does not have enough power to pass a truck on an incline. The newest one I drove was about 2000/2001. I think it was a power to weight thing, the older ones were very heavy. So not exactly new and I am not trying to put you off, just advising you of a potential issue that used to exist and still might. Test for yourself :)	DeSade (984)
1363146	2013-12-21 07:35:00	The older ones were available with a 1.8, 2L, 2L GT and 2L Turbo, all the 2L ones go fine. The later Caldinas I don't know a lot about, except the motor in the ZT ones are apparently crap (1AZ-FSE) mostly because they don't like NZ fuels. They are designed to be a low emissions engine. forums.toyspeed.org.nz	Alex B (15479)
1363147	2013-12-21 23:56:00	I feel the need to comment on my new-to-me Mondeo. In a short sentence... its the most boring car ever conceived and brought into production. After having it for a few days: The Good: It looks ok; It drives nice; Its fuel friendly; This version has all the introduction model problems sorted; Its high tech - with latest stability and all-thu-whatnot-shizza braking controls; Decent rear space for passengers; Other gizmos and shizza included; Good local servicing, being a ford; Decent acceleration from the modest engine; Very good braking (in my quick test earlier); The Bad: Old man's car; I used to drive an Alfa now I'm reduced to this; Makes me forget my reason for living; *sigh*	Greg (193)
1363148	2013-12-22 00:08:00	I feel the need to comment on my new-to-me Mondeo. In a short sentence... its the most boring car ever conceived and brought into production.After having it for a few days:The Good:It looks ok;It drives nice;Its fuel friendly;This version has all the introduction model problems sorted;Its high tech - with latest stability and all-thu-whatnot-shizza braking controls;Decent rear space for passengers;Other gizmos and shizza included;Good local servicing, being a ford;Decent acceleration from the modest engine;Very good braking (in my quick test earlier);The Bad:Old man's car;I used to drive an Alfa now I'm reduced to this;Makes me forget my reason for living;*sigh*You are comparing an alfa to a mondeo. Mondeo maybe boring but would take that over an alfa anyday	plod (107)
1363149	2013-12-22 00:16:00	You are comparing an alfa to a mondeo. Mondeo maybe boring but would take that over an alfa anyday Either are a no no for Cic.	Cicero (40)
1363150	2013-12-23 04:06:00	[QUOTE=pctek;1185017]I can tell you you'd get more than that off Trademe. Dealers always offer low $ so they can add a huge markup./QUOTE] When trading in any used car in New Zealand you will get sod all for it - The explanation is simple, a dealer is going to offer a good bit less than he can land a used Jap import for, and as these jap import cars carry at least 150% and frequently 200% mark up on landed cost, it is not rocket science to work out why dealers will pay so little for trade ins. A car in a dealers yard with a window price of $16995, has a planned selling price between $15495 and $14995, to give the punter a feel good pretend discount, and cost the dealer no more than $6500 if he was the importer, or $8500 if it was imported on his behalf. It is over 9 years since I left NZ and this was the proportional relationship on jap imports then, prices will have gone up since but the ratios will be much the same.	KenESmith (6287)
1363151	2013-12-23 04:15:00	I feel the need to comment on my new-to-me Mondeo. In a short sentence... its the most boring car ever conceived and brought into production. After having it for a few days: *sigh* You could have bought a Toyota - "Whitewear on Wheels" Modern cars, unless you are prepared to buy European performance Cars, are all boring, predictable, reasonably reliable, aimed at a predominantly budget conscious market.	KenESmith (6287)
1363152	2013-12-23 09:55:00	5) Another $1.5K may go to various places for advertising or printing billboards for you, listing on certain websites etc Usually you are charged for all advertising. I agree with Cic that it is a rip off.	mikebartnz (21)
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