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Thread ID: 135877	2013-12-22 04:48:00	Skiing vs Snowboarding	learning (5137)	PC World Chat

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1363287	2013-12-23 02:59:00	Learning to ski would be the driving equivalent of learning to drive a manual car vs learning to drive an automatic car (snowboard) . I'd suggest learning to ski first because you can always transition over to snowboard later if you decide that it looks more fun or you just want to try it out . Learning ski turns (carving) is much easier skis now that it was on the old straight skiis that went out of production back in 2000 . I first learned skiing as a 10 year old at Whakapapa (Ruapehu, NZ) and that time, keeping your skis together during the turns was the mark of any expert skier . Now days When you lean into a turn carving skiis basically do all the work for you so it feels like you are cheating . On the downside to learning snow boarding-They are not so suited to the crappy snow conditions that you might get during the season on Ruapehu or the north east of the US where they have lower mountains and higher moisture content in the snow . The West Coast of the US has the drier lighter snow - so for Colorado: Vail, Aspen, Brecken Ridge etc or Steamboat Springs if you go to Tahoe . . onthesnow . com/lake-tahoe/map . html" target="_blank">www . onthesnow . com Once you are up and running you and do any trick you can imagine on skiis that can be done on a snowboard and anyone who says that you can do more tricks on a snowboard hasn't seen what you can do on twin tip skis . Every trick that I have seen on a snowboard can be done on skis . One of my all time favourite ski snow board videos . youtube . com/watch?v=F1kFQX7_PlQ" target="_blank">www . youtube . com If you just want to be able to ski regular garden variety down hill skiing then any pair of carvers would be fine . Learning to carve . youtube . com/watch?v=UGn62uxnhjg" target="_blank">www . youtube . com I've skied for 30+ years . Definitely do the helmet and gloves . I have one of those HD helmet cams on as well which are awesome for learning or just for playing around doing tricks . Thanks!! That was very informative!! For a start I will be heading to Crystal mountain or Mt Baker/Stevens pass in WA . Its funny I lived in NZ for ages yet i never took time out to do skiing at Ruapehu so this will be my first time	learning (5137)
1363288	2013-12-23 03:11:00	It also helps to be physically fit as well, otherwise all the leg muscles that you never knew that you had will be screaming for mercy at the end of the day. I m a very active person and into cycling and long distance running. I just decided to take up another sport to keep me active during cold winter months :)	learning (5137)
1363289	2013-12-23 04:48:00	Skiing is definitely more technical to learn but reaching forward to pole plant seems to have become a thing of the past with the advent of carving skis . I had to unlearn certain aspects of skiing with straight skis in order to learn how to carve with carving skis - both with long drawn out carving turns and quick short radius turns ( useful when skiing moguls.) As shown in this video Carving for beginners www.youtube.com Most snow boarders won't know what moguls are because all the moguls tend to be removed with all the sideways scraping of their boards down the field.) For those young 'uns on the forum, this is mogul skiing www.youtube.com Snowboarders are the bane of skiers (on narrow trails) because the action of their turns tends to pile up heaps of loose, deep snow (heavy at Ruapehu) at the edges of narrow trails, making it difficult for skiers to turn/shed speed (unless they are proficient - when they are skilled, their turns are similar to carved ski turns)...	johcar (6283)
1363290	2013-12-23 18:40:00	Snowboarders are the bane of skiers (on narrow trails) because the action of their turns tends to pile up heaps of loose, deep snow (heavy at Ruapehu) at the edges of narrow trails, making it difficult for skiers to turn/shed speed (unless they are proficient - when they are skilled, their turns are similar to carved ski turns) . . . I think that skiers and snowboarders tend to be each other's "enemy's" on the mountain . Snowboarders tend to carve wider turns than skiers as they ride down the mountain . It's the large percentage of novice and intermediate snow boarders who are often forced to side scrape their boards over icyier sections if the field that result in the loss of moguls . That never used to happen before the invention of snow boards . On the upside of snow boarding, it has bought us carved skis, twin tips on free style skis, Half pipes and a massive array of aerial tricks on both skis and snow boards that are amazing to watch :) I used to love skiing moguls :)	Webdevguy (17166)
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