Forum Home
PC World Chat
Thread ID: 135818	2013-12-15 08:09:00	Christmas front door	lakewoodlady (103)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
1362675	2013-12-15 09:41:00	Many front doors in my neihbourhood are adorned with wreaths at this time of year I dont quite get it, as I always associate a wreath with death and bereavement. The stories tell us that Jesus was BORN at Christmas. His DEATH and resurrection occured at Eastertime, so why a wreath at Christmas? The Christmas wreath was originally a four pointed star and represented the season of Advent, being four weeks before Jesus' birth. A wreath can represent other things that are not always to do with death.	lakewoodlady (103)
1362676	2013-12-15 09:42:00	Thanks, Johcar - guess I should have googled it before posting. Next time I am at a funeral and see all the wreaths laid out, I'll think of Christmas.	blanco (11336)
1362677	2013-12-15 18:08:00	The stories tell us that Jesus was BORN at Christmas. Yes the fairy tales mention the shepherds being out with their flocks and noticing the star and all that. Anyone noticed it snows in Israel in December? Shepherds did not go out in winter with the sheep. While the birth year of Jesus is estimated to have been between 7 and 2 BC, the exact month and day of his birth are unknown. (Note that inconsistency too) The date of Christmas may have initially been chosen to correspond with one or more ancient polytheistic festivals that occurred near southern solstice (i.e., the Roman winter solstice). The original date of the celebration in Eastern Christianity was January 6, in connection with Epiphany, and that is still the date of the celebration for the Armenian Apostolic Church and in Armenia, where it is a public holiday. So Happy Pagan holidays.	pctek (84)
1362678	2013-12-15 19:49:00	Much of the Christian calendar was politically based i.e. to provide a deliberate alternative celebration to existing Pagan feasts. This made acceptance (or conversion) an easier process for the pagans to convert to Christianity. :2cents:	WalOne (4202)
1362679	2013-12-15 20:31:00	So, lets do some straight talking at the risk of offending believers. (I am a born again realist and believe what I see with my own eyes, not what I am told)). Was there ever a guy called Jesus who according to the holy bible was born from a virgin mother, performed all kind of miracles, was crucified by the Romans and a few days later rolled back the huge stone blocking his grave entrance and went to a fictitious place called heaven, from which place he will return - some people thought it was Elvis Presley! Wishful, naive thinking. Many would argue that religion has throughout history played a major part in sustaining high moral standards in society but I would suggest that religious and tribal beliefs have been more responsible for death and suffering than any other cause and continues today.	blanco (11336)
1362680	2013-12-15 21:07:00	This thread seems to have gone a bit off track! Just thought it would be nice to see a little bit of Christmas cheer, and some interesting pics of doors . Cheers LL	lakewoodlady (103)
1362681	2013-12-15 22:49:00	Was there ever a guy called Jesus who according to the holy bible. There are only 4 "books" that mention such a person in it. No other archeological document has ever been found mentioning one - and the romans kept records of all **** stirrers they executed.	pctek (84)
1362682	2013-12-15 23:06:00	I would suggest that religious and tribal beliefs have been more responsible for death and suffering than any other cause and continues today.Then you'd be wrong.. the two world wars which accounted for more deaths than any other conflicts were politically motivated. And then there's diseases and natural calamities which certainly aren't religiously caused.	Greg (193)
1362683	2013-12-15 23:08:00	the romans kept records of all **** stirrers they executed. Jesus was executed by the Jews, not the Romans.	Greg (193)
1362684	2013-12-16 00:41:00	This thread seems to have gone a bit off track! Just thought it would be nice to see a little bit of Christmas cheer, and some interesting pics of doors . Cheers LL Darn it . Did you mean Jim Morrison there LL Ken :)	kenj (9738)
1 2 3 4