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Thread ID: 53554 2005-01-20 23:09:00 Paradise email down! chuckee (5499) Press F1
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316234 2005-01-20 23:09:00 Paradise's email has been down for me for the past 13 hours. This is a huge problem for me, as I can't conduct any business while it is down. It really does not help that their 'help desk', or rather, call centre, is located in a different city from their servers (according to them).
Does anyone have this same problem? Paradise have confirmed that no email in my account has been able to be delivered since 11pm last night, with absolutely no sort of ETA on when the problem will be fixed.
Is there some sort of place where I can complain about this (other than to TelstraClear who I am sure would ignore me?) I really get annoyed when all you get from ringing these companies is a call centre who can only help with the most basic of problems.
chuckee (5499)
316235 2005-01-20 23:11:00 Mine is fine. Can you access your webmail? pixeldust (6619)
316236 2005-01-20 23:15:00 Apparently it is only affecting some of the customers...
I can login fine to my email, both in Outlook, and in Webmail. The problem is that no messages are getting delivered.
chuckee (5499)
316237 2005-01-20 23:20:00 Here's why:

root@tamas:~$ dig @ns1.paradise.net.nz paradise.net.nz mx

; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> @ns1.paradise.net.nz paradise.net.nz mx
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 45278
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 4

;; QUESTION SECTION:
; paradise.net.nz. IN MX

;; ANSWER SECTION:
paradise.net.nz. 1800 IN MX 20 smtp. paradise.net.nz.
paradise.net.nz. 1800 IN MX 10 pop3. paradise.net.nz.

Paradise report two mail exchangers, the one with the first priority (10) is the one named pop3. paradise.net.nz.

It is not responding:

root@tamas:~$ telnet pop3.paradise.net.nz 25
Trying 203.96.152.6...

However smtp.paradise.net.nz their second mail server is responding:

root@tamas:~$ telnet smtp.paradise.net.nz 25
Trying 203.96.152.32...
Connected to smtp. paradise.net.nz.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 smtp-2.paradise.net.nz ESMTP Postfix

Unfortunately pop3.paradise.net.nz isn't actually refusing the SMTP connection, so it doesn't fail over immediately to the secondary server, instead it is taking a long time to timeout. Thus mail from other ISP's will be queueing up waiting to connect to pop3.paradise.net.nz - there will be significant waits while the messages fail through to smtp. paradise.net.nz.
ninja (1671)
316238 2005-01-21 00:02:00 I thought smtp servers were only used to send email and not receive them? chuckee (5499)
316239 2005-01-21 01:05:00 I thought smtp servers were only used to send email and not receive them?SMTP servers exchange e-mail. So Xtra's SMTP server talk's to Paradise's SMTP server when an Xtra customer wants to send mail to a Paradise customer.

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ninja (1671)
316240 2005-01-21 01:09:00 No wonder why I haven't been receiving any emails today.Its because of paradise.I should've received an email from trademe saying that they have credit my account and a question on my trademe listing but no emails! Ninjabear (2948)
316241 2005-01-21 01:14:00 root@tamas:~$ telnet pop3.paradise.net.nz 25
Trying 203.96.152.6...
Connected to pop3.paradise.net.nz.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 pop3-2.paradise.net.nz ESMTP

It's back up now, it'll no doubt take a while for the queue to get worked through.
ninja (1671)
316242 2005-01-21 11:06:00 Anywho - seems a security issue is the problem at Paradise:
www2.paradise.net.nz


Security issue - email and web hosting

A small number of Paradise.net customers may have have experienced email delays and web-hosting problems on Thursday January 20th and Friday January 21st.

Early Thursday morning some Paradise email was delayed. Our security people detected a security threat and disconnected a server to preserve the integrity of Paradise.net.

This server will be reconnected shortly and backlogged email should be delivered this afternoon (Friday January 21).

As part of our security precautions we also disconnected hardware which hosts Paradise web pages. We have been working round the clock to ensure the hardware can be reconnected with no risk to Paradise.net or Paradise users. We expect to restore web pages this evening.

We know that an external party has attempted to interfere with Paradise.net. This attempt was picked up and immediate steps were taken to avoid any further impact on Paradise.net customers.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience these very necessary steps have caused. Our approach, as always, is to take firm steps to preserve the security of Paradise.net and protect our customers.

the team at Paradise.net
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316243 2005-01-21 11:19:00 I don't know about everyone else but I'm still waiting for most of my email to come through now, even.
I'd like to know exactly what percentage of customers were affected - why do I always seem to be in the 'small number'?
chuckee (5499)
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