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Thread ID: 53618	2005-01-22 09:23:00	norton antivirus2005 vs avg free edition	petil (6119)	Press F1

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316966	2005-01-23 03:50:00	I run Avast Free and AVG Free. Avast is my 'active' always on virus scanner. AVG I've set up so I can scan individual files or whole drives with a right click. They complement each other. This morning, for the third time this week, AVG picked up a trojan that Avast missed. Sometimes it's the other way round. As well as this I run The Cleaner, a dedicated trojan scanner, as well as SpyBot and AdAware. :) Cheers ~ John	braindead (1685)
316967	2005-01-23 04:32:00	I disagree that 'paid' av progs are generally better than the free ones........on several occasions i've seen avg pick up nasties that norton missed...... what did it find? and why did nortons miss it? putting any new antivirus onto a system that has an out of date, broken or poorly configured antivirus will always find virus's that the old one didn't find. i notice a lot of people saying that nortons didn't find xyz trojen. odds are the trojen is adware/spyware. the catch with that is adware is often legit. wether you call it a virus or not depends on how fussy you are. one AV company may not rate a certain adware as been very bad so it won't bother detecting it while another thinks its a nasty so it will detect it. it all depends on what you call nasty and adware/spyware is a big grey area.	tweak'e (69)
316968	2005-01-23 05:02:00	what was it ?.........couldnt really say I've seen this happen on about half a dozen occasions...and most of those times norton has been up to date....as i'm a tech I carry the 'intelligent updater' around on cd and regularly download up-to-date versions.........and I recall at least one occasionn where it definitely wastn' any kind of 'adaware'.......the systems symptoms included the dreaded 'page cant be displayed' and on dial up 'sent data' kept goin up and up and up waaaaaaaaayyyyyy above received and that's only from a connection.......typical virus activity........	drcspy (146)
316969	2005-01-23 06:25:00	'intelligent updater' dosn't update nortons fully (don't know about corprate vers tho).	tweak'e (69)
316970	2005-01-23 07:05:00	sorry for quick reply before.... the point here is i doubt anyone here has ever done any proper testing of AV progs. everything here is so highly subjective. you need to factor in WHY people go from a paid AV to a free AV (eg out of date and don't want to pay subs). the odds are they are infected hence the new AV will detect the virus so therefore its assumed new AV is better than the old one.	tweak'e (69)
316971	2005-01-23 22:16:00	I got hit with a trojan the other day, downloaded AVG and it found 3 objects that Norton 2005 didn't. My copy of Norton was pirated but that's a rip that anyone would pay $50 when you don't get what you pay for.	DukeOfAnus (6968)
316972	2005-01-23 23:53:00	ahem (forums.pcworld.co.nz)	Prescott (11)
316973	2005-01-24 00:21:00	MMmm a conundrum, if you have an up-to-date Antivirus . . . . . how do you KNOW that a virus/worm/trojan has been missed by it? I agree, in that, a lot of people immeadiately class spyware as a virus, if that Anti-virus program picks it up . The same line is getting blurred by some AV calling spyware a Trojan . I think this " this AV is better than this AV " is pointless when you consider both the above mentioned AV programs have been passed by the recognised testers . . Virus Bulletin ( . virusbtn . com/vb100/about/index . xml" target="_blank">www . virusbtn . com) and ICSA Labs ( . icsalabs . com/html/communities/antivirus/index . shtml" target="_blank">www . icsalabs . com)	pheonix (36)
316974	2005-01-24 00:44:00	MMmm a conundrum, if you have an up-to-date Antivirus . . . . . how do you KNOW that a virus/worm/trojan has been missed by it? Random file names present on the comp and in startup,rouge folders and exe's (sp . exe anyone?) outgoing traffic when comp is idle . . . . .	Metla (12)
316975	2005-01-25 06:14:00	wow what a responce seems everyone has there own opinion unfortunately having 2 antivirus programs running was causing comp to crash big time so i have deleted avg and stayed with norton thanks heaps for your input peter	petil (6119)
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