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317660	2005-01-25 07:53:00	I find FF only fails to return to the exact position on sites such as 'trademe'. The rest of the time it works perfectly. :)	KiwiLinc (6595)
317661	2005-01-25 08:10:00	Proximodo (the sucessor to proximiton) has a feature to force caching no matter what teh page being viewed specifies.	Metla (12)
317662	2005-01-25 08:37:00	Is there an extintion for Firefox that allows the page to stay where it was when you press back? eg. I'm on trademe, and i click into an auction, and then i press back and i'm at the top of the page, but i want to be where i was before i clicked into the page. Any help would be cool. Daniel You could get into the habit of clicking each link with your mouse wheel instead of your left mouse button. This will load a new tab and after you have browsed the item for sale, close the tab and you should then be returned to your original list at the place you left it. I love Firefox for this :) Alister	juicytree (4858)
317663	2005-01-25 10:52:00	Blame Trademe not FF if you are unhappy with the no-cache rule they have (smartly IMO) set. Firefox is only obeying a rule the TradeMe website code has set, specifically telling the browser to behave this way. It helps you get up-to-date information which is important in an auction scenario. Internet Explorer has a bug which means it ignores this rule. Not exactly a bug, just lack of standards compliance. At first it may seem handy, but once, before I found out about FF, I lost a very important auction because of this. Go test it, you will see what I mean. IE ignores the no-cache rule. On other sites where this no-cache rule has not been set, Firefox will indeed return to the previous position on the page. The reason it does not after a reload is this: the page could have changed, and the position you were at may now be somewhere completely different or irrelevant. IE does the exact same thing you are complaining about in a way. If you go to Trademe, click back and then click Refresh while holding down Ctrl - thereby doing what FF does and IE should - doing what the Trademe source code tells it to do, Internet Explorer will reload the page and you will be back at the top. I am guessing it would be possible to write a plugin that makes FF have IE's problem, but IMO that is not particuarly desirable. You have to think, is the slight conveniance worth the problems? My 5c. Cheers George	george12 (7)
317664	2005-01-25 21:20:00	I hate tabs, so that won't help much, and i went to the microsoft site (in ff), and it didnt go back up to the top there, so it is trademe, but ive never had a problem in IE, is there a way to fix it in ff? Daniel	dwnz (5333)
317665	2005-01-25 22:52:00	I hate tabs, so that won't help much, and i went to the microsoft site (in ff), and it didnt go back up to the top there, so it is trademe, but ive never had a problem in IE, is there a way to fix it in ff You came for advice. You were given the same answer, by numerous people. You are now ignoring everything that has been said in the thread. :mad: :groan: The MS site doesn't do it because it doesn't set the no-cache directive. :thumbs: If you ask for advice on a problem, try taking it from those who know. Edit: Try eBay. They set the no-cache directive and as such the site behaves appropriately.	ninja (1671)
317666	2005-01-25 23:30:00	I hate tabs, so that won't help much, and i went to the microsoft site (in ff), and it didnt go back up to the top there, so it is trademe, but ive never had a problem in IE, is there a way to fix it in ff? Daniel Technically Daniel what you meant to say is "is there a way to reproduce the problem in ff?. That is what you want to know. Looking in about:config I can't see an option to do what you want, but have you tried looking for extensions?	george12 (7)
317667	2005-01-25 23:34:00	I would have thought that in this case the requirement would be to not display a preloaded cached page in order to be standards compliant and I have just tested and confirmed that Opera is definitely following that standard - the page is refreshed upon returning. It is a very handy feature to have it return to the previous location when using the "back" button and is something I sorely miss in Firefox. Well Daniel, based on that I guess you could use Opera. It pretty much has the advantages of Firefox over IE, but seems to return to the page position even though it still refreshes as it should. Convenience and standards compliance.	george12 (7)
317668	2005-01-26 01:27:00	Well Daniel, based on that I guess you could use Opera. It pretty much has the advantages of Firefox over IE, but seems to return to the page position even though it still refreshes as it should. Convenience and standards compliance. Thank you George. :) Changing to Opera would solve his problem entirely - that is what I have been trying to say all along.	FoxyMX (5)
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