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Thread ID: 53897 2005-01-30 18:26:00 Home network woes Henry Crun (7046) Press F1
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319475 2005-01-30 23:10:00 Good suggestion by bartsdadhomer to start again - you might find the forum's Networking FAQ (pressf1.pcworld.co.nz) useful as well. FoxyMX (5)
319476 2005-01-30 23:57:00 Here's another thing I found useful when networking W98 with XP & W2k, so that they will see each other reliably, and that is to use the same usernames and passwords. Terry Porritt (14)
319477 2005-01-31 02:13:00 Thanks to all that have helped so far, but to (almost) no avail. I've done all that has been suggested, and other than finding a hardware issue on the W98 machine (fixed), I'm still not networked!! The XP box is aware of the W2k and the W98 boxes - identifies them correctly when I explore the network, but can't open them, nor do the W2k and W98 boxes see the XP box. Seems to me that cables/PC hardware is operating, and I have a software or hub fault. I still have a "AUI Partition" LED red on the front of the hub; I can only guess that because it's red, it indicates a problem. This LED illuminates when PCs boot up - it's not lit by default when the hub powers up.

Frustration levels are extreme!! Won't do any good for my alcohol content!

:badpc:
Henry Crun (7046)
319478 2005-01-31 02:45:00 The AUI port is the 15 pin D connector. It's meant for a cable going to a thick Ethernet tranceiver, or an adaptor tranceiver for thin Ethernet or twisted pair. Don't bother about it. It would normally be used for the uplink to a server.

Start with the minimum. Try just two computers. I would make the Linux box one of them. It's got better networking behaviour, built in. It has also got good network diagnostic tools. A hub is an advantage for that, because you can see all the packets on the network. ;) Use ethereal or tcpdump to see what's going on.
Graham L (2)
319479 2005-01-31 02:48:00 If you can see the other computers - have you also given them something to share?

Need to go to Windows Explorer, right click a folder and set the sharing to share it - and to be able to see it from another computer.

Also... Win 98 under network you have a choice of Windows Login or Network login. Change it to windows login and see how you go.
Mercury (1316)
319480 2005-01-31 04:37:00 I'm still not networked!! The XP box is aware of the W2k and the W98 boxes - identifies them correctly when I explore the network
:badpc:

Untrue statement, XP can see 98/2000 you are most certainly networked & the hardware is working properly
As said by Mercury you will have to enable shares on each machine
Keep plugging away & you'll be there soon
Remember though reboot after every change, it lets all the machines refresh all settings
bartsdadhomer (80)
319481 2005-01-31 06:15:00 I have an XP, 2 Win98 network. From the 98 computers I can see the XP files, other way I can't (even though there are things to share on all of them). Haven't actually looked for the cause and fixed it because it is an occassional irritant rather than a big problem and I keep forgetting about it.

If you are having problems - bear this in mind and check from both ends.

Also, on the 98 machines - if you have a login box come up make sure you use it and don't cancel out of it (friend had major problems with this. Logging in solved the problem).
Mercury (1316)
319482 2005-01-31 08:19:00 I'm joining this discussion a bit late, but several months ago we spent a few frustrating days getting our home network going. We have 3 desktops + a notebook, all with Win XP.
We found that what was stuffing us up was the Win XP Network Wizard. After a lot of screwing around,we found that everytime we ran the wizard it turned on the Windows firewall, which blocked the network (without telling anyone). Once we turned all the Windows firewalls off, everyone suddenly could see each other and talk.
Once we got the network working, we had to configure Sygate firewall to allow traffic to the IP addresses of the machines on the network.
We found ping was pretty useful along with the checklist on this page
NetworkTroubleshooting (www.practicallynetworked.com)
TideMan (4279)
319483 2005-01-31 18:10:00 Also, on the 98 machines - if you have a login box come up make sure you use it and don't cancel out of it (friend had major problems with this. Logging in solved the problem).
You can get round this by using tweakui for 98 and using the auto login feature after of course entering the login details to tweakui.

Also another thing that may effect this setup you have set the the microsoft network client as the primary client in properties of netwoking applet of all machines.
beama (111)
319484 2005-02-02 11:04:00 TideMan has pointed you to perhaps the best site for learning about windows networking. Look particularly for the articles on file sharing and permissions. Are you getting any error messages when trying to access another machine?

If you can see the other machines, the IP network is functioning. Just sort the sharing and permissions.

Good luck.
Lindsay.
linw (53)
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