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319923 2005-01-31 23:43:00 Hey,

Currently my FTP/Samba server is running Fedora Core 2. I want to upgrade this to Fedora Core 3. I have the DVD iso downloaded and I want to install from this iso, rather than burning it (as the machine has no CD/DVD drive).

I've heard this is possible and called a hard drive installation?

I have been unable to find a step by step guide to doing this.

Anybody keen to give me the lowdown or a link I may have missed whilst googling?

Cheers,

Ash
Ash M (46)
319924 2005-01-31 23:49:00 I dont think so. Most isos need to be burned to cd. Then installed. Speedy Gonzales (78)
319925 2005-01-31 23:52:00 I dont think so. Most isos need to be burned to cd. Then installed.

I know its possible. Im sure you can mount it as a drive and start from a bootdisk floppy.
Ash M (46)
319926 2005-01-31 23:56:00 OK. Well you can try whats on this site

fedora.redhat.com

Dont know if it'll work or not. I dont use Linux. Or Fedora.
Speedy Gonzales (78)
319927 2005-02-01 00:25:00 As far as I know, you need to copy the file as a bootable ISO using Nero, KB3 (on Linux) or some such. Murray P (44)
319928 2005-02-01 00:45:00 Of course it ought to be possible. ;) It's just the trivial details which get you.

The trick is that an installation needs to be booted, and not from the partition(s) it's to work on. A floppy is fine.

It's no problem to mount the iso image ("loopback") as a filesystem, so it's all accessible. But you can't just install from that. I suspect you'll have to copy everything from that "virtual DVD" to a normal file tree (because the boot floppy probably won't be able to do the loopback mount --- it will expect to see a real disk structure, not an ISO file). If it can be put on a separate partition, that might be least "looking for trouble". I'm assuming that the installer will give an option of "from a hard disk").

Mount the DVD image, then look for floppy images. They'll be in a directory at the top level (possibly called IMAGES ;)) if they are there. dd if=imagefile.img of = /dev/fd0 bs=72k will make a floppy. (Don't use floppies with any bad blocks ... boot images require perfect floppies. "Error 10" will stop everything.)

I haven't used Fedora, but I'm just going by experience with RH. ;)

Good Luck.
Graham L (2)
319929 2005-02-01 04:41:00 Bump :) (Will the above work Jen? Chill maybe?) Ash M (46)
319930 2005-02-01 04:58:00 Yes, this will work. You need to put the DVD ISO on a partition somewhere that will not be overwritten during installation. You can even put it on a separate computer and access it via the network (never tried this though). Only hitch is, I don't think FC3 includes a bootable floppy image anymore on the their discs. But if you have Knoppix handy, you could boot the machine with this and then mount the ISO image with this?

The link that Speedy Gonzales gave here (fedora.redhat.com), mentions mounting ISO images. If you do a bit of a google hunt, I am sure you will find step by step instructions too for this. I will have a look as well and see what I can find. :)
Jen (38)
319931 2005-02-01 05:25:00 But if you have Knoppix handy, you could boot the machine with this and then mount the ISO image with this?Hmm ... I get the bright bunny of the week award :blush: , you have already said you don't have a CD/DVD drive, so no point booting with a Knoppix disc I guess! :D

Does the machine have a USB port and will boot off a USB pen? There is a boot.iso image on the install discs which is too big for a floppy, but will fit on a flash pen.

Either than, or you are going to need to find a bootable Linux floppy somewhere than you can use (floppy disk distro?).

Or take the easy way out and temporarily hook up a DVD drive to the machine just for the install. :)
Jen (38)
319932 2005-02-02 01:52:00 But Jen, it's the details. It's all very well being able to boot Knoppix and [/b]mount[/b] the .iso file. But let's see you then [/b[boot it[/b].;) You need a bootable installation disk. A floppy is the logical one here. It's not a standard Linux. it's an installation disk. (There's certainly a way to start the installation procedure , but I don't think it's like typing "setup" to DOS prompt. The installation is likely to very closely tied to the kernel it is running under ... I wouldn't be surprised if it fell over if run under a "foreign" kernel. Windows setup is fussy about the DOS it is run under, too. ;)

Australian PC are running a series on Linux at the moment (and had Fedora 3 on their cover DVD last month.)

The article mentioned a floppy boot installation in passing, and said the details were given in the .PDF file on the DVD. I'm guessing that this is a Fedora installation guide on the DVD. There probably such a file in the .iso file.
Graham L (2)
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