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Thread ID: 135952	2014-01-01 20:15:00	Trade Me dilemma	Cicero (40)	PC World Chat

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1364054	2014-01-02 01:18:00	You will note I said in post 1, Sarah from Trade Me had sent him an email and I have sent 3. I will get in touch with Sara again and send email to him with ultimatum.	Cicero (40)
1364055	2014-01-02 01:41:00	Chap bought a 9" Wadkin buzzer off me about 2 months ago. Having purchased the buzzer,he asked if he could delay pick for a week or two due to having a baby Demand proof he was able to have a baby. Where exactly does it emerge from? Just send him one more email stating if it is not collected in x days, you will re-sell it. Then do so, regardless if he doesn't reply.	pctek (84)
1364056	2014-01-02 01:43:00	Cicero, I thought you asked, What would you do? I didn't know you wanted a concensus or approval for an already predetermined course of action.	WalOne (4202)
1364057	2014-01-02 01:48:00	Cicero, I thought you asked, I didn't know you wanted a consensus or approval for an already predetermined course of action. Quite so Wal, I wanted your thought on the dilemma and at no point was it otherwise. I appreciate all your thoughts on the matter, and am acting on them. I wonder what upset you?	Cicero (40)
1364058	2014-01-02 01:54:00	Demand proof he was able to have a baby. Where exactly does it emerge from? . I wasn't there, but I understand it was by cesarean.	Cicero (40)
1364059	2014-01-02 02:29:00	Just be a little bit careful here ... there is difference between "ownership" and "possession" in contractual law. Although you have possession of the machine, I think that ownership has transferred to the purchaser having paid you for it ... In fact, I think it actually changed when both of you agreed to the "contract" to buy & sell. It's been a long time since I did my contractual law studies, but I would be checking with someone who is more up to date with the legislation now. Worst case scenario, you could be done for theft. If you have his address, get it delivered and get the freight company to bill him ... it may be difficult to find a company willing to do that these days, and there may be reasons other than having a baby which has delayed him picking it up, i.e. Death, jail, dun a runa ! My advice would be to check the legal situation (not just layman's theories and opinions) before doing anything. No disrespect to those who have already done so. There's probably a Community Law Center close to you that will be able to give you the right information at no cost.	SP8's (9836)
1364060	2014-01-02 03:35:00	Just be a little bit careful here ... there is difference between "ownership" and "possession" in contractual law. Although you have possession of the machine, I think that ownership has transferred to the purchaser having paid you for it ... In fact, I think it actually changed when both of you agreed to the "contract" to buy & sell. It's been a long time since I did my contractual law studies, but I would be checking with someone who is more up to date with the legislation now. Worst case scenario, you could be done for theft. If you have his address, get it delivered and get the freight company to bill him ... it may be difficult to find a company willing to do that these days, and there may be reasons other than having a baby which has delayed him picking it up, i.e. Death, jail, dun a runa ! My advice would be to check the legal situation (not just layman's theories and opinions) before doing anything. No disrespect to those who have already done so. There's probably a Community Law Center close to you that will be able to give you the right information at no cost. I have TM involved again so will see how they go.	Cicero (40)
1364061	2014-01-02 06:57:00	I wonder what upset you? I'm not upset, I thought you'd ignored some of the cautionary comments from myself and others. :) Just be a little bit careful here ... there is difference between "ownership" and "possession" in contractual law. Although you have possession of the machine, I think that ownership has transferred to the purchaser having paid you for it ... In fact, I think it actually changed when both of you agreed to the "contract" to buy & sell. It's been a long time since I did my contractual law studies I agree with SP8's; at a base level, there are three components of a contract ... 1) an offer (the bid on TM); 2) acceptance (the advice of the successful bid); and 3) satisfaction (the pregnant one paid the account :lol:). On the face of it the bidder is the legal owner but the item is still in your possession. And that's where it gets a little curly, possession being 9/10 of the law ... My advice would be to check the legal situation (not just layman's theories and opinions) before doing anything. No disrespect to those who have already done so. There's probably a Community Law Center close to you that will be able to give you the right information at no cost. x2 :thumbs: I have TM involved again so will see how they go. The best course, I wish you success. Please keep us up with the play. :)	WalOne (4202)
1364062	2014-01-02 09:20:00	Thus far........... Thanks for getting back in touch. No worries, I've passed the phone number you provided on to the buyer of your '3 Phase 9" Wadkin Buzzer - 640185111' trade, so hopefully they give you a call and this can all be sorted out. If you don't hear from them, let us know and we'll be more than happy to give them a call to see what the situation is. If there’s anything else you need in the future Brian, please don’t hesitate to contact us again. Flick us an email and we will reply as soon as possible, or call us on 0900 87233 for $1.99+GST per minute. We are here 24/7 and always happy to help. Thanks, Casey	Cicero (40)
1364063	2014-01-02 18:20:00	I would say it is not unlike people who don't collect their PCs when repaired. I had one like that, he bought it in, quoted, he accepted, fixed it, he never came back. Left messages and got hold of a relative of his too and spoke with him. Still nothing. So I followed the law, placed an ad and then sold the PC to recover costs. You have contacted this guy several times, TM has too, so sell it again, place bad feedback and move on.	pctek (84)
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