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324303 2005-02-13 01:50:00 :angry is that right? is that correct for all ISPs in NZ? I was going to get a 2mb 10gb plan (as that seems to be best, want unlimited) but was under the impression 10gb was a download cap, if it's all data then i'm going to use it in a coupla days, oh dear :(

Yep and I can tell you that BitTorrent traffic can be really add up for uploads ;)
gibler (49)
324304 2005-02-13 01:52:00 Yep and I can tell you that BitTorrent traffic can be really add up for uploads ;)

heh, damn!! even more of a pain when i need to keep a share ratio up ;)
kwyjibo (7195)
324305 2005-02-13 03:01:00 As far as Telecom is concerned it is, they think in decimal terms just like the money charged .Oops, I said this because in the past Telecom specified one of its allowances as 5000 MB even though most people called it a 5G plan. I note that currently Xtra's glossary has Gigabyte = 1024MB and Telecom's site doesn't define Gigabyte. PaulD (232)
324306 2005-02-13 05:16:00 Isn't that what Jester said? I'm a little confused, as you say that what Jester said wasn't correct, but then go on to say pretty much what he had said (with a little bit added)?

M.

Not quite. He was talking about pages of data. I was talking about all the data you don't actually see. Very simplified (we wont worry about the acknowledge packets here but just what is coming our way) a 1GB file downloaded onto your machine may in fact use up to 2.5GB of data in the worst case scenario.
A packet of data not only includes the data you want but also information about how big the packet is, where it came from, who it is suppose to go to, etc. In other words heaps of stuff.
Big John (551)
324307 2005-02-13 09:23:00 Hi

Whether it's data you see or not, I was just trying to make brandysson aware that all traffic/data/call it what you will, will be counted towards the allowance.

I thought I clarified the comment later on in my post, however I am sorry if I wasn't specific enough *sigh* I used the word 'page' as an example, referring to a web page as not many people know that viewing a web page is actually 'downloading' information, as well as 'uploading'. A colleague recently said to me that they wouldn't even need a 1 gig cap as they don't download 'anything'......

There were many examples, in the early days of broadband, where you had to pay per MB over your limit, where people were stung when using p2p programs and other people uploaded what they shared.

:thumbs:
Jester (13)
324308 2005-02-14 04:46:00 Very interesting and informative thread. Now I'm a lot more clued up about it too. I knew about upload and download is all data. But I did forget about the instruction packets, headers, definitions/addresses etc.

I think a lot of people get confused between "downloading
a program/Mp3/update/movie trailer/whatever" and just ordinary web usage like web surfing.

They think the first "download" case is the only download case. I have heard people say too that the "hardly ever actually download anything" even though they spend hours on net.

thanks to all

Lurkio
mark c (247)
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