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Thread ID: 54585 2005-02-16 09:10:00 Dual displays on Powerpoint, projector and laptop? Billy T (70) Press F1
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325609 2005-02-16 09:10:00 Last year I posted a query regarding dual-independent displays of Powerpoint from a Toshiba Portege 3490CT (full screen presentation on the projector, speakers notes on the laptop) but with very short notice I didn't manage to resolve the problem in time so I went ahead without speakers notes, which was not entirely successful.

I now need to do another major presentation in a few months time and this one is too important to muddle through without access to my notes so I am back on the trail of the elusive dual monitor display, this time with several weeks in hand!

The primary software requirements appear to be W2000 and Powerpoint 2000, (I have both of these on the laptop), and the hardware requirement is either two video cards or a video card that can drive dual displays.

The Toshiba display adapter is an S3 Savage IX and careful searching found reference to DuoView for this model. Delving into the display adapter settings/advanced I found an option called S3 DuoView+ and a quick internet search revealed that this was indeed intended to provide the facility I wanted without the requirement for two video cards. Whoopee-doo I thought!

I set it up for dual controller operation and LCD/CRT, hooked up the spare CRT, loaded Powerpoint, and there I ground to a halt. Under "Slideshow>Setup Slide Show" I have an option for primary monitor but that is greyed out and I can't find a way to enable the independent displays.

I found This Link (www.powerpointanswers.com) which contains in part the following text:

Hardware: What you need
If you are using a laptop, it must have a video chipset that handles dual monitors. Be aware that a "monitor out port" does not indicate that your laptop is configured with the dual monitor feature. Check with your laptop vendor to see if your particular laptop has this capability. If not, you can use a PCMCIA video board.

The S3 DuoView seems to fit that bill, but following down that page I don't get the dual monitor display under display settings.

Toshiba don't seem to know much about any of this, but I just can't see all those corporate warrior presentations being done without speakers notes, so I am sure this model is modern enough to have that option.

I also found a compuserve Toshiba forum last year but it didn't help much either.

Any fresh ideas out there?

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
325610 2005-02-16 09:14:00 Print the speaker notes. ninja (1671)
325611 2005-02-16 10:31:00 ROTFLMAO

Don't be a dork ninja :groan: , you can't shuffle 70-80 pages of notes when presenting on the hoof in a professional forum, the notes need to automatically follow the screen display, especially when they contain technical data and you have to hop backwards and forwards through the slides during question time.

While waiting in hope for some constructive advice, I have found an update for the Savage IX drivers on DriverGuide and will consider trying those. Has anybody used the DriverGuide free Toolkit for backing up existing drivers?

I don't want to disable my laptop if I can avoid it so I'd like to be a little more certain of the likely outcomes before I take the plunge.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
325612 2005-02-16 10:43:00 Try searching here (www.realtimesoft.com) for S3 savage. It appears that Windows XP might work. gibler (49)
325613 2005-02-16 10:55:00 Thanks gibler, I'll look through that.

I shouldn't need to update the OS though, W2000 and Powerpoint 2000 both support dual monitor display so they should be good enough. I have XP Pro here if necessary though.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
325614 2005-02-16 11:33:00 Don't be a dork ninja :groan: , you can't shuffle 70-80 pages of notes when presenting on the hoof in a professional forum, the notes need to automatically follow the screen display, especially when they contain technical data and you have to hop backwards and forwards through the slides during question time.It was valid advice. You didn't say how long the presentation was or anything about the size of the prospective notes - no way I could have ascertained that from your post.

If anything having them printed is likely to be more reliable than a computer, at the very least as a backup should the power fail, or the PC dies, or the projector wasn't booked or whatever.

70-80 pages is not notes, it's a manuscript. The dictionary defines notes quite clearly.


A brief record, especially one written down to aid the memory - maybe that could be the next WFTWE extravaganza.

So before putting on your pretentious condescending ego hat (though I would be surprised if it ever came off) and deriding the suggestion why don't you look at it like it was - a logical, valid, simple suggested solution to a problem.
ninja (1671)
325615 2005-02-16 11:42:00 Well I tried it on my computer which is hooked up to my 29"TV and it worked how I think you want it to. The TV displayed the slideshow fullscreen and the computer monitor had powerpoint and the notes.

I set it up as described in the link you posted under the heading "Configure the system to recognize two monitors" about ¼ down the page. Then Powerpoint allowed me to use two monitors.

I know that was not much help but it can be done.
Rob99 (151)
325616 2005-02-16 13:03:00 zip
Not entirely sure if my comprehension is working at this time of night, but have you tried this:

Connect the projector to your laptop, then you go into display properties -> settings tab, click on the '2' in the picture which should be secondary display output and enable it with the little checkboxes below.
E|im (87)
325617 2005-02-16 17:59:00 Billy
There are instructions on how to do this in Powerpoint help (at least 2003 version) try "dual screens" as your search string. It wont let me copy and paste the instructions sorry.
hope this is what you are looking for.
beama (111)
325618 2005-02-16 19:35:00 I already have all the instructions guys, I just don't get the options on screen. i.e. I don't get dual monitors in control panel, and I can't access the dual monitor function in Powerpoint, probably because of the former issue.

It may be a driver issue, but I want to gather as much information as I can before i start dropping new drivers into the thing. If I stuff it, it will cost me!

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
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