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1379758 2014-08-02 22:48:00 "You're probably 1 out of a few billion ". That's what his mother says!! As long as he doesn't believe it:) linw (53)
1379759 2014-08-02 23:22:00 Its like the useless network wizard that was in XP. Why it was there in the 1st place, I have no idea. It didnt do anything. What took people ages to figure out, could have been done, in less than a minute if you did it manually The wizard is really easy to use, from memory ( so some steps my be missing ) You connect a Ethernet cable directly via a Laptop, PC, making sure the PC is NOT connected to the LAN ( this is important as it does change some options) the wizard often opens on its own when detected, or open your web browswer, you scan for any wireless signals, any in range will be detected, you select yours. You can either change the name of the extender to something else or use its default which will put a ext at the end Eg; yournetwork_EXT.

At this point you can either use the same password ( advisable) or give it another. The reason I set up the same password is if you have a mobile device that has been connected to the original Wireless & extension, if you move from one stronger signal to another the connection can change to the stronger signal, and you would never know.

Theres a couple of other options atfer setting the pasword, just read what you do or dont want to do.

Once its synced ( can take a minute or two), unplug the laptop ( settiing up) scan for any wireless connections and you'll see a new one, Eg> yournetwork & yournetwork_EXT, connect to it using your password, and thats it, all done. :)

If the range is not to good where the extender is, then move it, ( unplug, then plug in again, no need to resetup) keeping in mind the further away from the router the extender is, the weaker that critical connection strength of the signal between the router/Extender crossover will be.

Thats why I normally set up Access points Via ethernet -- you can run a cable ( up to 100Mtrs) from the router plug a Access point into that.

BTW: The extender can be connected as a acess point to a ethernet cable if needed, just sets up differently.
wainuitech (129)
1379760 2014-08-02 23:32:00 Thankfully i didnt have to do all / any of that. Only time I used an ethernet cable was when I updated the fw on the modem. To reconfigure it. I've never used extenders myself. At the mo everything connects fine to the modem wirelessly Speedy Gonzales (78)
1379761 2014-08-02 23:46:00 "You're probably 1 out of a few billion ". That's what his mother says!! As long as he doesn't believe it:)

We are all one out of a few billion... Or maybe two, if you're Siamese twins...
Agent_24 (57)
1379762 2014-08-03 00:38:00 The wizard is really easy to use, from memory ( so some steps my be missing ) You connect a Ethernet cable directly via a Laptop, PC, making sure the PC is NOT connected to the LAN ( this is important as it does change some options) the wizard often opens on its own when detected, or open your web browswer, you scan for any wireless signals, any in range will be detected, you select yours. You can either change the name of the extender to something else or use its default which will put a ext at the end Eg; yournetwork_EXT.

Do you use the same SSID as the current or make it different? If you keep it the same as long as the 2 devices are on different channels I find there is no need to change any devices with any wireless connection.
berryb (99)
1379763 2014-08-03 02:44:00 Do you use the same SSID as the current or make it different? If you keep it the same as long as the 2 devices are on different channels I find there is no need to change any devices with any wireless connection. "Usually" I would use the same SSID as per the original.

One funny event happened once, one customer wanted his SSID at his house named "Home" that way he could determine which was his home and which was his work network.

Few months later another customer wanted the same thing, when scanning for networks the laptop picked up home_ext -- it was his neighbors that I had installed previously. Their previous Router, also having the SSID of Home was to weak to go outside the hall let alone the house.
wainuitech (129)
1379764 2014-08-03 06:13:00 it was his neighbors that I had installed previously...

:) Trying to be clever I named my SSID virus.exe. A bit later we had a group of young people staying. I had given them the password and one of them said "I presume it's virus.exe" and connected. He didn't blink an eyelid or show the slightest bit of amusement - behaved as if everyone names their access point that way...

After the earlier discussion on wifi extenders I got to thinking what I would do if I needed to. I decided that the most scientific solution would be to use an access point/wifi router/repeater with a detachable antenna. And replace the antenna with one that had some gain eg a yagi with about 12 dBi gain. This would give 10 dB increase over the typical 2 dBi that access points use. Most importantly, the 10 dB would apply to both transmit and receive. So instead of the normal 100mW of transmit power (or 50mW, if it's a typical repeater ie 17 dBW), it would have 1 W effectively both transmit and receive.

And if I could use a separate antenna at the client end, I would get a total of 20 dB both ways. That's 10 watts equivalent, both ways
BBCmicro (15761)
1379765 2014-08-03 23:04:00 :) ........ Most importantly, the 10 dB would apply to both transmit and receive. So instead of the normal 100mW of transmit power (or 50mW, if it's a typical repeater ie 17 dBW), it would have 1 W effectively both transmit and receive.

And if I could use a separate antenna at the client end, I would get a total of 20 dB both ways. That's 10 watts equivalent, both ways

Just so there's no confusion, higher db antenna's dont give any more power. Zero, zilch nada . (I know you said equivalent) :)
All they do is focus the transmission into a narrower (more focused) beam.
That could make things worse if trying to go between floors .

But your example does show why better antenna's are more effective than (legal) signal boosters .
1101 (13337)
1379766 2014-08-04 03:46:00 Yagis work well in a point to point link but are hopeless in a normal multi-directional wi-fi setup. They are very directional. You'd get a great link between the extender and the router but they'd both have hopeless coverage unless they had seperate aerials for local wi-fi usage as well as the yagi for the link. dugimodo (138)
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