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| Thread ID: 55600 | 2005-03-15 00:09:00 | internet bank fraud | Adamho (7593) | Press F1 |
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| 334204 | 2005-03-16 09:45:00 | Ninja is right, Im not happy about being thrown in the same box as people who are destructive. I make legal adjustments to the linux kernel code, as well as other applications to make my LiveCD that I am working on. I am a good person. I am doing nothing illegal. I _AM_ a hacker in that respect. Joe bloggs next door, or down the road, tries to break into the Government website to get access to confidential records, or reverse-engineers the latest Game so it doesnt need a CD/Serial key. What they do is illegal. What they do is wrong. They are NOT hackers, but ARE crackers. Here's the point guys: There's going to be media coverage on the situation, dont balls it up! You want an opportunity to tell people that its not just enough to update AVG once a month, or to open a file and then think "Why didnt that work? Musta been a virus", then say so. Say something constructive guys! If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem.... Chill. |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 334205 | 2005-03-16 10:07:00 | You are never going to change the perception of what the general public think a hacker is so you might as well get used to it. The dictionary defination is - verb [I usually + adverb or preposition] to get into someone else's computer system without permission in order to find out information or do something illegal: Computer hacking has become very widespread over the last decade. a person who is inexperienced or unskilled at a particular activity <a tennis hacker> an expert at programming and solving problems with a computer a person who illegally gains access to and sometimes tampers with information in a computer system I realize it means something different to you and others in the industry but that is where it should stay but for the general public a hacker will always be someone who hacks something whether for good or bad reasons. |
Safari (3993) | ||
| 334206 | 2005-03-16 10:22:00 | The term hacker has been well and truly cemented in the public consciousness less through reporting about "hackers" and more through Hollywood movies. If you want to pin the blame not just for the misuse of "hacker", but for the complete mis-representation of technology on someone I'd pin it on Hollywood. Where else do "hackers" chase after techno boxes capable of breaking into any secure system, anywhere in the world (Sneakers). Where else are villians able to use the internet to so completely hijack your identity that you essentially cease to exist (The Net - surely this damn awful movie feeds the paranoia about identity theft more than real-world cases). Where else to "hackers" crack the world's most secure encryption systems by using manipulating virtual Rubic's Cubes (Swordfish). The public perception of what a hacker is, is shaped by the movies, not TV news. |
Biggles (121) | ||
| 334207 | 2005-03-16 10:24:00 | This thread has had 612 views and only 41 replies. Pathetic response guys. What is the problem, are you all shy or just apathetic. |
Safari (3993) | ||
| 334208 | 2005-03-16 11:47:00 | So why does Google define it differently? I respect you may accept the world for what it is, however I am not and do my best to make just a minor influence in the life of as many as I can. I may not be around to witness the forrest, but somebody has to plant the first tree right!?! I must say the only movie that even semi-accurately portrays a hack is The Matrix: Reloaded: www.insecure.org news.bbc.co.uk Still, this is vearing largely OT. So, whilst this may never make it through the news, being largely unrelated to Internet bank fraud, the point still remains that script-kiddies, virus/malware authors, and Crackers, are the reason people need to be wary of using their PC's and Internet-Banking. Meanwhile I sit back blissfully un-aware of all the keyloggers, spyware, and popups that bombard the everage Joe at home, and decide its time to update my kernel on my desktop & server. Im curious just how Adam origionally found out about PressF1 too :) I think the fact there is so many views and so few posts represents how minor this threat is, or is known to the masses. |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 334209 | 2005-03-16 11:58:00 | The views vs posts would most probably reflect people’s reluctance to insert their 2 cents lest they have it ripped out of context and shoved back down their throats, repeatedly. Well, if the other thread is anything to go by...... |
Metla (12) | ||
| 334210 | 2005-03-16 20:33:00 | :2cents: coming up. Email your bank and tell them to make their sites work with alternative browswers if they don't already. I have to use IE to do payments tho Opera works fine for viewing. I've emailed them. Of course, if alternative browsers became the standard for interent banking then alternative browsers are going to the ones to get hacked/cracked/messed around with. :horrified And, the reason there are so many lurkers here is that people are learning. A lot of it may be baffling to them but the more you read and follow threads the more you learn. I've done that. |
mark c (247) | ||
| 334211 | 2005-03-16 20:39:00 | Well I've said it before in other posts. 1) Install a firewall (and configure it properly) 2) Check frequently for spyware using Adaware, Spybot or other reliable checkers. Update them regularly too. 3) Don't download "free" software off the net unless you are sure it is not spyware or contains it. This website has a database that check on first: www3.ca.com 4) Don't use vulnerable browsers - such as IE (yes non-MS may become more of a target later but you can do your best to avoid the worst ones) |
pctek (84) | ||
| 334212 | 2005-03-16 21:30:00 | yes pctek thats basicly the guts of it (add antivirus as well of course). non-ms browsers also can be infected with nasties so they are not immune, just harder for USERS to infect themselves. the hard part of all this is getting users to actually have an uptodate antvirus, to have and use a firewall etc and most of all, use comman sence. the question is, are banks going to sit back and let customers be victims or force their customers to be sicurity minded ? |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 334213 | 2005-03-16 22:26:00 | Not sure if anyone here saw an article on Sky News a couple of nights ago on this very subject. It was Australian based and interviewed a "leading expert" (university Professor I think) who loudly criticised the banks for effectively requiring consumers to spend "a couple of hundred dollars" in protection software just to be able to use their internet banking service. One cannot help but think that this view belongs on another planet, given the extensive range or free software to maintain security. Also, I subscribe to the view that incompetence of the user should not reflect badly on the service provider. It should only reflect badly on the user. If people are not capable of maintaining their own security, they should either pay to have it done or be banned from operating a computer. All banks should do is publicise the dangers that incompetence by the user will create. Then charge the incompetent users if they have created problems. |
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