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| 335222 | 2005-03-18 00:11:00 | Hi everyone Any one know of some freeware colour profile creating software beside the Epson utility. To be used for profiling a Epson 2100 using Photoshop 6. I have downloaded the 2100 ICC profiles and now wish to make some custom Colour profiles Thank You in advance |
beama (111) | ||
| 335223 | 2005-03-18 00:57:00 | To really profile a printer it has to be hardware based. This is a spectrophotometer which with the software you print an A4 out and scan it with their device the utility would make the approp printer ICC profile which you can use the convert command with Photoshop. Can also be done to profile your monitor by sticking on your screen assisted with a strap.... Monaco Systems and GregtagMacbeth are two companies. GMB (http://www.gretagmacbeth.com/) Monaco (http://www.xritephoto.com) GMB the spectro would be Eye One Photo, Monaco would be Xrite Pulse. Colorimeters would be Monaco Optix, GMB's Eye One Display. You can get cheaper colorimeters but they arn't suitable for printers but sufficient for monitors. Avoid www.colorvision.com if you can. Stick with the two above brands. They are expensive so why not profile your monitor so you are fixing that up .. what u see on screen should what it be ... then if spectrophotometers are too expensive, just get the cheaper colorimeter to profile monitor and you can send the printout to various companies .. They send you a ICC profile. www.drycreekphoto.com/ or http: PDF file how to use (=http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Frontier/using_printer_profiles.pdf) Many pple also feel that the Epson ICC profiles from www.epson.com does a fine job. Guide (http:) The Epson 2200 is the USA version, an article by one of the reknown photog. Edit: Eye One Photo Review with pictures how its used (www.computer-darkroom.com) I fyou want you can get "free" utilities to blindly calibrate your own monitor using your own eyes and altering the scroll bars .. some at google and one is included with Photoshop the gamma settings .... For printers you would do much worst if you were to abandon Epson ICC and then just use your eyes, in fact I have not heard of one solution.... |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 335224 | 2005-03-18 04:37:00 | Nomad Thanks for that. I donot what to blindly make profiles nor do I trust my aging eyes. Its just that sometimes there is a colour distortion between what is on the screen and what is printed ( a purple,green, or somtimes red tinge). Ive changed print heads and the 2100 will refuse to print if ANY of the cartridges are empty. I had no intention of throwing away the epson profiles just looking for alternatives (incase of the worst). You seem to to have expertise in this area so ill ask one more question, could there be a chemical mismatch between the ink and the photo paper, I have struck this before when using hp printer and canon paper( Hp no longer make a A3 photo paper not, matt anyway) |
beama (111) | ||
| 335225 | 2005-03-18 05:29:00 | Re: the issue of mismatching. The way is designed with Epson printer ICC profiles is that the profiles are for Epson paper. If you are using a diff paper they can be a mismatch. Have a look via the printer properties and you would be able to see the papers that is listed by that ICC/Epson Driver. To gaurantee better match, use your Epson 2100 printer with Epson ink the ultrachrome, with Epson paper. Via the properties of the printer, you can change all those settings like paper type etc... Have a read of that article I posted by John Shaw, make sure you follow step by step, then see if you are still having the issues. Dry Creek Photo PDF document provides you a step by step from Photoshop how to apply the ICC Epson profile to the printing stage.... have a read of both. The Epson ICC is prob hardware calibrated for you but its not a custom calibrated as each sample of the same printer may diff a little bit. They are pretty good from the ones I have heard. Above all, make sure your monitor is calibrated with a hardware device the cheaper colorimeter. If you are not seeing the right colors on your screen how can you gaurantee your monitor is matching your printer. The tint could well be from your monitor .... But first start using epson 2100 prescribed ink and epson paper first.... as you are employing epson ICC's which were made using all Epson products..... Then it would show you how off is your moniror and if you feel warranted getting a monitor calibrator. Read those 2 articles. V impt. You don't use the default settings to produce accurate results. The default is wrong, one being the driver tries to apply ICC color mgmt 2x ... |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 335226 | 2005-03-18 06:37:00 | Yes I have read those articles this afternoon. I found them through google before posting here. A reread never hurts, I have downloaded those pdfs. The paper I use is is approved by Epson for 2100 , but I thought it was a question worth asking. Again thank you for your help in this matter. |
beama (111) | ||
| 335227 | 2005-03-18 09:29:00 | If you using Epson paper and ink and still have issues after following those help files . Try to get the later ICC 2100 if they are availble . Get monitor calibrated with Monaco Optix, the spectro is $$ . If not enof, then get a custom printer icc done by sending a prinout to someone . With matt papers, one of the best papers is epson premium enhanced matte . If you going to get custom printer icc made out, make sure you follow the instructions . As anything you change can affect the results . That is the settings you use thru printer driver, the ink type the paper type the printer and the printer driver . If you just using matt papers then choose one matt paper that you like, stick to it, get a print done with those settings those paper and those inks and send it away from a ICC to be made for you . If you need gloss then unfortunately you need another service done for gloss paper and you need to give them a print as well . The drawback of course is if Epson updates their printer driver, that may affect the printout, but you can always keep the older driver . . . . Spectro meters are in the thousand dollar mark (US$) . But they do allow you to make your own at no additional cost . Here you can see a difference using epson profiles vs custom made ones, with enhanced matt paper with a wide format epson printer using the same ink as the 2100 . Link ( . outbackphoto . com/printinginsights/pi013/Epson9600_02 . html" target="_blank">www . outbackphoto . com) Via that page, you can find that he got Uwe Steinmueller to make his custom profiles up . Do a google search with it . . . that's another supplier who does this ICCs for you . |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 335228 | 2005-04-01 09:03:00 | Here for cheaper custom made profile than the bulk. One at $40USD. The folks at www.photo.net seems v happy wif them. http://www.cathysprofiles.com/ |
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