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Thread ID: 136274	2014-02-11 22:11:00	Child abuse in New Zealand.	mzee (3324)	PC World Chat

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1367414	2014-02-12 04:06:00	Wainui, are you taking into account there's alot more European people than Maori, so percentage wise the numbers could be even? ROFLMAO....I have to assume you are arithmetically challenged :) According to Wiki, Pakeha~69% of the population, Maori~14.6%, so on a pro rata basis Pakeha should outnumber Maori about 4 or 5 to one in all the statistics like crime and abuse etc etc Au contraire..."Seven times more young Maori women and four times more Maori children are hospitalised from an assault compared to Pakeha women and children."	Terry Porritt (14)
1367415	2014-02-12 04:28:00	Wainui, are you taking into account there's alot more European people than Maori, so percentage wise the numbers could be even? That quote is NOT my figures its from an official document as linked. I dont make the numbers I copied them, gathering them has nothing to do with me. :) Sources are at the bottom of the document. If you have any questions ask the departments concerned.	wainuitech (129)
1367416	2014-02-12 05:44:00	The point is, locate the areas where the problem is and sort out the adults. It is the parents who have to be made responsible for the care of their children. Any action taken would be far more effective if it was addressed to the group concerned, rather than to the whole of New Zealand. Feeding children at school etc is not the way to go. There is no excuse for any New Zealanders to starve or go without medical treatment, or for parents to have no income. They want to try living in a country with no welfare system, and no free medical treatment. In the country I came from, if you didn't have an income you starved. There were very few Doctors and one dentist. New Zealand is a Paradise and its time some of the locals got off their butts and appreciated it.	mzee (3324)
1367417	2014-02-12 07:44:00	Ain't it awful? Here we go again, with (yet) another racist thread that takes us nowhere - the essence of talkback radio. Where do you sit? Give this some consideration - psychology for the layman, 70's style but very valid today Games People Play by Eric Berne People often live their lives by consistently and predictably playing out identifiable games in their inner and interpersonal relationships. They play games to avoid reality, conceal ulterior motives, rationalize their reactive behavior or to avoid the responsibility of active participation in life situations. Some of the more common games are: Now I've Got You, You Son-of-a ***** (NIGYSOB) Used to justify anger that has built up over an extended time period. The aggressor (usually unconscious) identifies their victim, sets up a trap and springs it as a form of getting even or gaining perceived power. Ain' t It Awful Person overtly expresses distress, but it is covertly gratified at the prospect of the satisfaction they can wring from their misfortune. Blemish Person seeks to find the blemish or weakness in another or themselves. They exploit others around the discovered blemish from an authoritarian posture. In themselves, it is used for negative reinforcement for inability to perform. Why Don't you... Yes, But Played out as a person presents a problem while others present solutions — each beginning with “Why don’t you...?” followed by the objection, “Yes, but...”. The payoff is the silence or masked objection when the solution giver has exhausted their data bank of solutions. This gives the “Yes, but” player evidence that they have won by demonstrating that it is the other person who is inadequate. If It Weren't For You Common games played between spouses and business people as a means to avoid responsibility for individual decisions. Debtor Often becomes a script.., a life-time plan. Used as a means to create purpose in life. Reaching the top often leaves the player feeling depressed and aimless. It is the struggle to get there that provides purpose. Look What You Made Me Do Played by someone who is feeling hurt and angry, who becomes engrossed in an activity which tends to isolate them from people. When interrupted, an accident or error occurs. Player then turns on the intruder. Also used to direct cause or failure in a task the player is angry about having to do or does not know exactly how to do. Harried, Hurried, Hassled, Hustled Often played out by the harried housewife or business person whose position requires he/she be proficient in 10 or 12 different occupations or roles: mother, housemaid, provider, achiever, etc. All are conflicting and fatiguing. He/she takes on more and even asks for more, agreeing with other persons’ criticisms and accepting all demands from them. Eventually, he/she collapses, letting down everyone. His/her self-reproach adds to his/her misery. The players act out of inadequacy and fear of being seen as such. Let's You and Him Fight Player maneuvers two others into fighting. They align themselves with the winner. Sometimes, while the two are fighting, they will align with a third party who appears to be above fighting or sees honest competition as a sucker’s game. Wooden Leg Used to excuse dysfunctional behavior. “What do you expect of a person with a wooden leg?” Often used in statement form, i.e., “I'm a redhead and have a temper”, or “I drink because I’m Irish”, etc. Kick Me Played by people whose social manner invites them to be kicked. If people will not kick them, they will behave more and more provocatively until they have exceeded the limits, thereby forcing them to oblige. The jilted. . .the job losers.., the rejected. Conditional Love I will love you if... then comes the checklist. If you don’t accept my checklist in every way, I’ll withdraw attention, acceptance, affection. If you do match my checklist, I’ll reward you. Push-Pull Played by people who have a fear of closeness/intimacy but are also afraid of being left alone. They will entice or seduce the other person to come close, open up and then when the person has opened up, the push-pull player will retreat, leaving the other person confused. A more detailed look into the psychology of human relationships is contained in the book, Games People Play, by Eric Berne. :)	WalOne (4202)
1367418	2014-02-12 20:46:00	If this country was populated with 100% white people of British and Northern European origin the crime rate here would around the same as Iceland. The news papers would be thin because there wouldnt be much to report other than Olaf had a some overdue library books. Hand wring all you want liberals, you just cant face facts.	prefect (6291)
1367419	2014-02-12 21:13:00	Ain't it awful? Here we go again, with (yet) another racist thread that takes us nowhere - the essence of talkback radio . On the contrary Wal, there is nothing racist about the thread . What has been posted are facts that have been verified by a number of independent sources . I can’t find it at the moment but what disturbed me the most was an article in one of the papers by a Pediatrician at Auckland’s Starship Hospital who described what they had to deal with . The worst of all being babies shaken to death, put in washing machines, the list goes on and like it or lump it the perpetrators of these heinous crimes were predominantly of the Maori race . I’m afraid we have a very real problem, and the Ostrich approach is the least likely to fix things . And whilst you quote Erick Berne who makes some interesting observations, we must remember Dr Spock who became an authority on bringing up children, only to admit shortly before his death that he was wrong on many counts but it was too late to do anything about it . Ok dear . But to finish off, let me quote Thomas Fuller, British Clergyman, Writer and one of the most prolific authors of the 17th century . “A woman, a dog and a walnut tree, the more you beat them, the better they be” :D	B.M. (505)
1367420	2014-02-13 03:59:00	The numbers would be higher if they weren't all in prison :P www.stats.govt.nz 58% of ALL the inmates are Maori, a race which makes up 14% of the national population. They are over 4x overrepresented in prison. What are they in there for? #1 Sexual assault and related offences #2 Acts intended to cause injury Do the math.	Chilling_Silence (9)
1367421	2014-02-13 18:40:00	Clearly it’s a Race Problem, so may I suggest the "Maori Elite" get their noses out of the "Waitangi Trough" and address the matter.	B.M. (505)
1367422	2014-02-13 18:53:00	When I was in the airforce they had preferential treatment, pandered to beyond belief. On interbase sports whites only got one a year they got two or more. They could get a long bereavement leave for funerals even if the family was distant, whites got so many days and only for blood relations. They got everything handed to them on a platter but with a skin full of piss even senior ones became violent even in the armed forces bars. Did not matter because they got less punishment than whites.	prefect (6291)
1367423	2014-02-14 05:54:00	Clearly it’s a Race Problem........ but also its a poverty problem. note that i say poverty not poor.	tweak'e (69)
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