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Thread ID: 136288	2014-02-14 04:12:00	Novopay again	coldot (6847)	PC World Chat

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1367611	2014-02-14 04:12:00	But the minister responsible for Novopay said outdated school business practices are to blame for the high rate of mistakes in the most recent school pay round. Steven Joyce said on Friday the problem is the way schools hire their staff from year to year requires manual changes to their pay details. "The business processes of the education payroll means at the start of the year roughly just under two-thirds of all employees have to have information changed and a lot of that, in fact most of that is manual." Mr Joyce said changing that will require principals and other groups to agree to changes in the way schools work. After all the homework that went into Novopay it seems the schools just aren't doing things right. Or maybe nobody told Novopay that teachers often change jobs, move schools, change responsibilities etc. Obviously they should be hired at one pay rate in one school and stay in that for the next 20 years to allow the pay system to keep up with them. Why is it that the people responsible for Novopay were never made completely aware of the systems and practices in the education sector? The Minister has "discovered" that some practices are not consistent with Novopay! And he wants schools to stop messing around with Novopay - too bad about the teachers and principals trying to do their job as best they can! (I remember when I went to examine a system from a major computer company many, many years ago - they said "you must enter the staff members birthdate as YYYY/MM/DD". WHY? "Well of course you must do that so that the computer can sort them into order!" End of that proposal!)	coldot (6847)
1367612	2014-02-14 04:26:00	Novopay failed in Australia. They had the same problems that we are having now. Who was the fool who decided we needed Novopay here? Incredible.:illogical	Roscoe (6288)
1367613	2014-02-14 05:01:00	I think there is probably not much wrong with Novo pay. I mean we have not heard of any problems fro 9 months. I think its just the complexity of the start of the new year and the staff at the school inputting wrong data.	Digby (677)
1367614	2014-02-14 05:17:00	What a joke...	ChazTheGeek (16619)
1367615	2014-02-14 06:37:00	unfortunately its not to funny for the people who have been effected. Its expected a few teething problems, but this has gone way beyond that.	wainuitech (129)
1367616	2014-02-14 07:57:00	I think there is probably not much wrong with Novo pay. I mean we have not heard of any problems fro 9 months. I think its just the complexity of the start of the new year and the staff at the school inputting wrong data. +1 . There appear to be only a few with problems anyway although I agree it is upsetting for those that are affected. Yet again this is mostly an example of the teachers unions trying to make as much political capital as possible out of the situation	CliveM (6007)
1367617	2014-02-14 08:03:00	Meh, I saw the mother-in-law go in multiple days over the xmas break to sort out payroll issues with Novapay, Every days the story from them and the resulting issues were different. A few of the employees still got their pay muffed or missed even with the level of support given to novapay by the school. Line em up, shoot em. Those behind the mess I'm referring to, Evidently the front line support are under trained,under-qualified and unsupported.	Metla (12)
1367618	2014-02-16 07:26:00	unfortunately its not to funny for the people who have been effected. Its expected a few teething problems, but this has gone way beyond that. I was meaning the Novopay system is a joke. It always goes wrong. I really do feel sorry for the teachers.	ChazTheGeek (16619)
1367619	2014-02-16 07:54:00	I was meaning the Novopay system is a joke. It always goes wrong. I really do feel sorry for the teachers. Knew exactly what you meant, :) and agreeing, its gone way beyond a joke, or teething problems.	wainuitech (129)
1367620	2014-02-16 09:47:00	What is wrong with the Principle having a Cheque book?	mzee (3324)
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