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337022 2005-03-23 05:34:00 I have a older asus MB running a celeron 333 chip one of those large cellphone sized chips, don't know what socket it is.

I'm trying to install a new Maxtor 80gb hdd as the primary master, there is no operating system loaded on this machine at this time. The HDD is on its own unshared cable and the jumper is set to master.

These are my problems.

The HDD won't detect at all

I can't get any of my boot discs working to give me a command prompt to load the manufacturers large hard drive support utilities

When I set the drive jumpers to slave it detects but hangs in the middle of it

I don't know what model of board it is to update the bios and I can't get to a command prompt to do so anyway.

Can anyone help?
DeSade (984)
337023 2005-03-23 05:46:00 What happens, when u put the primary ide master on AUTO in the BIOS??

Have you done this in the BIOS? (put the hdd u have on Master). And also connected the power to it.

Did u go into the BIOS and change the bootdisk to cd so u can boot off it??

That's if u have a bootable cd for whatever you're going to install on the hdd.

What version of Windows (if it's Windows) will u be installing?
Speedy Gonzales (78)
337024 2005-03-23 05:50:00 What year was your motherbord made? as it might not support the large drive. Dannz (1668)
337025 2005-03-23 05:52:00 What happens, when u put the primary ide master on AUTO in the BIOS??

Nothing, the drive doesn't detect at all



Have you done this in the BIOS? (put the hdd u have on Master). And also connected the power to it.

Not quite with you here can you explain please



Did u go into the BIOS and change the bootdisk to cd so u can boot off it??

Yes



That's if u have a bootable cd for whatever you're going to install on the hdd.


The discs I was trying to use was a bootable disc with Maxtors disc utility on it and the standard win98se installation disc



What version of Windows (if it's Windows) will u be installing?

Win98se
DeSade (984)
337026 2005-03-23 05:54:00 What year was your motherbord made? as it might not support the large drive.

I don't know, at least 3 years old probably more, its not my machine and I have little information on it. I don't think it does support the large drives hence the reason for this post.
DeSade (984)
337027 2005-03-23 06:07:00 Nothing, the drive doesn't detect at all



Not quite with you here can you explain please

If u put a hdd on Master, u also have to put it on AUTO (primary ide Master) in the BIOS, so the BIOS knows it exists . (And windows) .

Well u have to connect a power connection to the cd or hdd . Did you connect a spare power connector from the power supply to the cd and hard drive? Put the hdd on Master IDE, and the cd on Secondary Master, or slave .

Yes



The discs I was trying to use was a bootable disc with Maxtors disc utility on it and the standard win98se installation disc

Boot from that cd . If this is the 98 SE CD . Change bootdisk to cd, then chuck the cd in . See if it boots from it .






Win98se[/QUOTE]
Speedy Gonzales (78)
337028 2005-03-23 06:18:00 If u put a hdd on Master, u also have to put it on AUTO (primary ide Master) in the BIOS, so the BIOS knows it exists . (And windows) .

Well u have to connect a power connection to the cd or hdd . Did you connect a spare power connector from the power supply to the cd and hard drive? Put the hdd on Master IDE, and the cd on Secondary Master, or slave .

Yes



The discs I was trying to use was a bootable disc with Maxtors disc utility on it and the standard win98se installation disc

Boot from that cd . If this is the 98 SE CD . Change bootdisk to cd, then chuck the cd in . See if it boots from it .






Win98se[/QUOTE]

All power connectors and ribbon cables are attached and attached correctally . when I select auto in the bios and set the jumper to master the hard drive isn't detected at all, when I set the jumper to slave it is there but hangs in the middle of the process every time .

Nothing will boot not my bootable cd's or my 98 boot floppy, I changed the boot order in the bios when I tried each and changed it back when it failed each time .

I think if I could only get the disc utility to boot then I can configure the disc from it and it should run . but nothing boots and I can't even get a command prompt .
DeSade (984)
337029 2005-03-23 06:24:00 Can you boot from a floppy with no CD drive or hard disk connected? If it won't do that we have problems. ;)


Try setting the drive's select jumper to "CS". Maybe it's a Cable Select cable. (That will require the CD drive to be on the other IDE cable).
Graham L (2)
337030 2005-03-23 06:26:00 OK . Well u would have to install DOS from floppy most probably to get a DOS prompt .

Since there's nothing on the hdd, and u cant get a prompt from an empty hdd .

I would reset the settings, in the BIOS if u can and start all over again .

Then just set the ide master and slave . Depending on where they r (Primary or secondary ide) etc .

And whatever else u have (If USB 2 is onbolard enable it in BIOS and the printer, if u have a printer) . What does the post screen say, when u boot the system up?? Does it show what the BIOS has detected here? For the cd or hdd or anything else at all?
Speedy Gonzales (78)
337031 2005-03-23 06:41:00 Can you boot from a floppy with no CD drive or hard disk connected? If it won't do that we have problems. ;)


We have problems......
DeSade (984)
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