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Thread ID: 56015 2005-03-25 01:50:00 Linux users opinions - RH9 vs FC3 l0gic (6781) Press F1
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337811 2005-03-25 01:50:00 Hi all, I've recently dug out RH9 CDs and put together a nice little server for home/work usage.

While re-doing everything I found a lot of people pointing out that RH9 is now unsupported and that people should think of moving to Fedora instead.

However, in my mind Fedora is still a young distro and I was wondering if people have had problems with it at all.

Basically, the question is..

"Is it time to move to Fedora Core 3?"
l0gic (6781)
337812 2005-03-25 02:31:00 Fedora is not a young distro, just a renamed distro now run by the open community rather that Red Hat. Fedora Core 3 is technically Red Hat 12 had they not changed the name.

Red Hat Enterprises uses Fedora to as their test bed distro. They have the right to introduce any new features and packages that are developed for Fedora into the Red Hat Enterprise commericial operating systems. Lot's of places run Fedora as a server, IDG uses Fedora to serve PressF1 and http://sourceforge.net/ runs on Fedora Core 2.

As to whether you need to upgrade to Fedora, depends upon your hardware and whether you need more modern applications. The older distro's suit old PC's as their resource requirements are smaller.

If your machine can handle Core 3, then it brings with it SELinux which offers extra security for servers. Wouldn't be needed on a purely home networked server which is not open to the outside world, but if you are exposed then having this will be a benefit. The newer Cores also have the more recent Apache applications. Saves having to apply so many security patches to the older version. There is also more ready to use packages and resources available.
Jen (38)
337813 2005-03-25 08:57:00 I don't upgrade as often as some others do - maybe since my copy of Linux is my main OS and it needs to go!!

But just before Christmas I did just what you suggested - upgraded from RH9 to FC3 .. but I don't do upgrades .. rather fresh installs.

I had three issues:
1. My CD writer would not work at all. Eventually I bought a new DVD writer which works fine.

2. My modem would not upload until I dropped the speed from 115kbps to 56kbps.

3. The GUI (GNOME) would not always shut down. What you do is wait until it does (eventually) then put a tick in the SAVE SESSION tick box. THis populates a configuration file in your home directory and from there it is fine.

John
johnd (85)
337814 2005-03-25 09:11:00 I just plain dislike rpm based distros. Growly (6)
337815 2005-03-25 10:24:00 ...However, in my mind Fedora is still a young distro and I was wondering if people have had problems with it at all.

Basically, the question is..

"Is it time to move to Fedora Core 3?"

Unfortunately, FC3 is resource-hungry out-of-the-box, but sticking to an old, unsupported distro is a bad idea from a security point of view. Old, no-longer-supported distros will give you dependency problems if you try to install a "recent" application, and updates, including security updates.

The best alternatives are to either to get a more powerful machine or learn to optimise the distro. This can be done in FC3 by turning off unnecessary services, choosing "lighter" alternative apps, compiling the kernel, and custom-building your own RPMs for your hardware.
vinref (6194)
337816 2005-03-25 10:32:00 Unfortunately, FC3 is resource-hungry out-of-the-box

Can't say I noticed any significant difference on my AMD850 Duron between RH9 and FC3 - I don't think FC3 is any more resource hungry than RH9.
johnd (85)
337817 2005-03-26 00:57:00 I recently installed Suse 9.2(DB with 98se) and think it's pretty good. Used to have Mandrake 10.

Love YaST, online update, so easy :)
Had a couple of problems with eth0 setup and router. But after that all good.

Now that I've tooted my horn I'll go back to sleep.
phar (7365)
337818 2005-03-26 08:47:00 Wouldn't bother if it meets your needs and isn't causing problems. The" Fedora Legacy Project "has security updates etc, which can be easily implimented using apt or yum-IE IT IS STILL SUPPORTED ;)...... I'm using RH7.3, which is also supported with it and have intalled a lot of great software. Mark.p (6961)
337819 2005-03-26 13:04:00 I have been using FC ever since version 1. After aquiring more Hard Drive Real Estate, I have used Fedora Core 3 for a little while now as a desktop and can't wait to see what is in store for Core4 (Due: Mon 6th June 2005).

I am also looking at getting a couple of old machines and setting them up and toying with them as servers.
mogwai (6235)
337820 2005-03-26 15:38:00 I also keep a copy of redhat 7.3 handy, a great distro, and it runs heavy metal FAKK2 without crashing all the time (even when you install an old zlib it is still unstable on more recent distro's), so there is sometimes good reason to keep old distro's alive. SaAB (1292)
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