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Thread ID: 56097 2005-03-27 09:13:00 TV One Sunday on Interenet Banking Hacking pctek (84) Press F1
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338449 2005-03-27 09:13:00 Shown was a "hacker" who actually did not hack anything at all but just installed a piece of spyware - specifically a key-logger on an internet cafe PC, then tells people they are safe on their home PC if they do three things:
1) Install a firewall
2) Do the auto-updates
3) Install anti-virus .

Right . I saw a PC yesterday that had ZoneALarm 5 installed . Everything had been given access to the net, including a vast number of spyware programs that were infesting the PC . So fat lot of use his firewall was .

Secondly since when is an anti-virus program sufficient to remove spyware from a PC?

No mention of configuring the firewall correctly nor installing anti-spyware programs .

Makes me mad . . . . . . . .
pctek (84)
338450 2005-03-27 09:21:00 You can send your disgust directly to those involved.

adam.hollingworth@tvnz.co.nz
Metla (12)
338451 2005-03-27 09:21:00 Makes me mad........
Yup, agree with you. Sometimes I felt that the public should be taught on how to protect thecomputer first before surfing the Internet. On the other hand, cyber law enforcement officer should step up their work to curb those unwanted cyber crimes. Cheers :)
Renmoo (66)
338452 2005-03-27 09:25:00 You can send your disgust directly to those involved.

adam.hollingworth@tvnz.co.nz

I did. :-)
pctek (84)
338453 2005-03-27 09:25:00 fiddle sticks! i missed it.... Prescott (11)
338454 2005-03-27 09:39:00 I wonder how many people (outside PF1) saw that and responded, "Firewall?? What's that???"

I perfectly agree with PCTek - it was a tad too simplistic (i . e . leaving out mentioning anti-spyware) and not explaining in layman's terms what a firewall does etc . They also needed to clearly iterate the main points of what the public can do to protect themselves, rather than shifting most of the blame onto the banks .

At least they didn't talk down at the viewers like Jude on those Unichem Health Diary ads .
D. McG (3023)
338455 2005-03-27 09:44:00 was there any reference or quotes from pressf1? Prescott (11)
338456 2005-03-27 09:54:00 heh, what was funny was that the keylogger seemed to be a demo version (ok maybe they did the download wasn't the actual software) . Couldn't the guy write one of his own (most anti-virus programs should pick up commerical spying software, although it is a grey area) .

You'd think the cybercafe would use something like the Software Restriction group policies (I assume it was Windows XP) and proper security permissions to prevent programs executing . Anyway, they need to make it more clear - if you conduct any personal business on a public PC you are mad (I definitely don't trust student machines at Universities, etc) .

Here is a clue . If your machine has ever been infected with spyware then you should reach for some reliable install media and start from scratch before Internet Banking :2cents:

What would have been interesting is an interview with one of the "mules" . Question 1: did you not think that moving lots of money around from your personal account to somewhere overeas was suspect? :p
gibler (49)
338457 2005-03-27 12:07:00 I must admit that I have a keylogger installed on my old comp which I moved to my younger brothers room, NOT because I'm mean or up to no good.

But because he downloaded one of those damn net Dialers and I need to make sure he doesnt goto any place like that.

Mum's Idea

And you can those loggers them from pretty reputable software sites which is even scarier :horrified
bob_doe_nz (92)
338458 2005-03-27 12:16:00 Did nobody else notice that the primary advice given was to not use public computer facilities for internet banking? The rest was just window-dressing for TV and they can't go into any depth worth mentioning for the general public .

It was informative only and was not intended to be serious security advice . I have done a couple of similar clips for TV shows (on another technical topic) and found it quite frustrating because no worthwhile detail was required and the facts had to be fudged to dumb the subject down for the target audience .

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
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