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Thread ID: 56275	2005-04-01 02:34:00	Toshiba Laptop - Opinions please	pctek (84)	Press F1

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340137	2005-04-01 06:09:00	My one biggest peeve with buying a computer from a shop/company is bldy recovery CD's .... they are fkin useless. I got caught out when I bought my desktop from PC Company (yeah the now defunct lot). Aside from having to replace half the tower innards 3 months after the warranty ran out, I went to add a 2nd cd drive (for on the fly copying) about 4 months after that. Now I don't know if its normal for a recovery CD to have a hissy fit because of new hardware, but this one did. In the end I bought a proper Windows XP Home CD (cheap, it didn't have a product key, whereas I did but had no CD). Got caught out by laptop recovery CD too at a later date. Ended up buying another O/S CD (XP Pro). At least with the laptop I got the proper Microsoft Office 2003 :) If you bought a computer system, wouldn't you expect to get a proper O/S CD with it too? How many people in here make computers for customers... do you guys give the customer the O/S CD or the recovery CD?	Myth (110)
340138	2005-04-01 06:22:00	Small operators aren't in a position to get custom made recovery cd's. And i for one wouldn't touch one with a barge pole. Laptops are a different story though,can't do much about em.	Metla (12)
340139	2005-04-01 06:26:00	Myth, you'll probably find that small "builders" supply the OEM version with the MS OEM CD. Larger companies are almost certainly tied by their contract with MS to provide a version of the OS which enforces the OEM terms by only being installable on that exact hardware.	Graham L (2)
340140	2005-04-01 06:57:00	Yeah right! So much for Toshiba junk! hey but i've got Nortons retail & no problems for me. :D	koolme2 (6385)
340141	2005-04-01 08:42:00	Back to the problem. I had a similar experiece with a desktop (hp brio celeron 533) a while back that was running xp home. It had 512 megs ram a new 7200 hardrive and ran xp about as well as could be expected from a system like this. They brought it to me a few week later complaining about slowness. Well it took 14 minutes to boot to the desktop and opening the control panel took 7 minutes. Tried everything I could think of and nothing worked. Just before nuking the os I checked in bios and took a long look and found it had been set to run os/2 warp. Suspecting they had been buggering around in the bios I reset it to setup defaults and the bugger ran like magic again. Worth a look in the bios.	the highlander (245)
340142	2005-04-01 08:42:00	[QUOTE=Myth] Aside from having to replace half the tower innards 3 months after the warranty ran out, I went to add a 2nd cd drive (for on the fly copying) about 4 months after that. Now I don't know if its normal for a recovery CD to have a hissy fit because of new hardware, but this one did. /QUOTE] Yes it is normal - depending on waht bits you replaced. Cause they are basically like a Ghost Image, if not actually a ghost image(the Toshiba does use ghost). So of course all the drivers would be wrong.	pctek (84)
340143	2005-04-01 08:44:00	Back to the problem. I had a similar experiece with a desktop (hp brio celeron 533) a while back that was running xp home. It had 512 megs ram a new 7200 hardrive and ran xp about as well as could be expected from a system like this. They brought it to me a few week later complaining about slowness. Well it took 14 minutes to boot to the desktop and opening the control panel took 7 minutes. Tried everything I could think of and nothing worked. Just before nuking the os I checked in bios and took a long look and found it had been set to run os/2 warp. Suspecting they had been buggering around in the bios I reset it to setup defaults and the bugger ran like magic again. Worth a look in the bios. Have you seen a toshiba laptop bios? Very um, limited. But that didn't help anyway. I think - whether Nortons was responsible or not - her O/S was already partly stuffed. Then it just fell apart completely. I mean this is MS we are talking about - :-) :badpc:	pctek (84)
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