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342674 2005-04-08 03:24:00 This PC is kind of weird. In network connections is: Local area network 2.
No 1. Where does 1 go?
It also has a gateway. There are no details for it and it is not removable - where would this have come from?
Ipconfig /release won't work. It said something along the lines of No permissible adapters found or soemthing, I forget the exact wording.
Eventually I got it to release and renew in the end but doing an ipconfig shows two ip adresses, one normal, 192.168.1.2 and one that shows something more like a mac address (but isn't).
It also shows another Tunnel something, like a VPN connection.
Nothing like this has been set up on this PC - is it related to the mysterious gateway icon?
One other thing I noted, in LAN properties was the normal TCP/IP but also another one MS TCP/IP v6.
Couldn't remove it.
How did all this happen? According to the owner she had not done it.
pctek (84)
342675 2005-04-08 03:43:00 The second IP address which "looks like a MAC address" is an IP version 6 address. The version 4 IP addresses use "dotted quad" decimal notation by byte. IP6 uses hexadecimal digits to keep the length down a bit. 128 bits would look like "101.101.103.104.105.106.107.108.109.110.111.112.11 3.114.115.116" in the old format. You need only 16 hex digits to represent it.

This may have happened with an (automatic download?) upgrade of the TCP/IP software.

I noticed that my last Linux installation gave me IP v6.
Graham L (2)
342676 2005-04-08 04:02:00 The second IP address which "looks like a MAC address" is an IP version 6 address . The version 4 IP addresses use "dotted quad" decimal notation by byte . IP6 uses hexadecimal digits to keep the length down a bit . 128 bits would look like "101 . 101 . 103 . 104 . 105 . 106 . 107 . 108 . 109 . 110 . 111 . 112 . 11 3 . 114 . 115 . 116" in the old format . You need only 16 hex digits to represent it .

This may have happened with an (automatic download?) upgrade of the TCP/IP software .

I noticed that my last Linux installation gave me IP v6 .
Right . But what about the Gateway in network connections? And what happened to LAN connection 1 as it only showed LAN2 .
And why would that prevent her interent working anyway?
She reinstalled windows in the ned but it bugs me now .
pctek (84)
342677 2005-04-08 04:15:00 Good questions, indeed. ;)

Doubtless someone has programmed code to do things which "seem like a good idea at the time". And to do it automagically, to save the users the trouble of doing it themselves. :(

I have always preferred to tell computers what to do explicitly. Not to have the computer do it itself, then not tell me.
Graham L (2)
342678 2005-04-08 08:52:00 What I really would like to know is:

Why LAN2 is there when there is only the one LAN connection. Even after removing it, it wants to be 2.

What/where/how the gateway icon.....
pctek (84)
342679 2005-04-08 11:01:00 Is this true, in Network Connections you have three icons, one called Lan1, one called Lan2 and one called bridge.

How many Lan ports does your motherboard have 1 or 2?
Does your motherboard have onboard Firewire?
Rob99 (151)
342680 2005-04-08 21:29:00 Is this true, in Network Connections you have three icons, one called Lan1, one called Lan2 and one called bridge.

How many Lan ports does your motherboard have 1 or 2?
Does your motherboard have onboard Firewire?
No

Two icons.
LAN2
Internet Connection (titled Gateway), not bridge.
It has 1 lan port. No firewire.
pctek (84)
342681 2005-04-09 07:50:00 What I really would like to know is:

Why LAN2 is there when there is only the one LAN connection. Even after removing it, it wants to be 2.

What/where/how the gateway icon.....
no - one knows huh.......
pctek (84)
342682 2005-04-09 15:59:00 Good questions, indeed. ;)

Doubtless someone has programmed code to do things which "seem like a good idea at the time". And to do it automagically, to save the users the trouble of doing it themselves. :(

I have always preferred to tell computers what to do explicitly. Not to have the computer do it itself, then not tell me.
That is a major difference between Linux and Windows. Within Windows2000 if the external modem is not turned on when I start it it is not recognised where as Linux does what it is told to do.
mikebartnz (21)
342683 2005-04-10 01:04:00 It's because Windows remembers crap like an elephant. Lan 1 will be assigned to some long lost old driver version, or a different NIC that was in the box. Common as problem.

Hope you're not charging them for this.
ninja (1671)
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