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Thread ID: 136486 2014-03-04 20:51:00 Labour wants to tax ISPs, watch them tax you in return WalOne (4202) PC World Chat
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1369408 2014-03-04 20:51:00 Worth repeating:


Labour wants to tax ISPs, watch them tax you in return with higher charges
by Cameron Slater on March 5, 2014 at 9:30am

Labour continue to show what a bunch of muppets they are with their ICT policy that was inadvertently leaked to National showing they want to tax ISPs.

It shows their complete lack of business acumen. They are suggesting a tax on the entire internet via ISPs.

Any cost lumped onto a business like an ISP is simply going to be passed straight onto the customer leading to higher charges.

Telecom is bristling at the suggestion Labour could impose a “content levy” on internet providers.

Labour was left red-faced today after MP Clare Curran’s ideas on ICT policy were accidentally emailed to her National Party counterpart, Communications Minister Amy Adams.

These include imposing a revenue-based levy on telecommunications carriers to create a contestable fund to support the “creation and accessible distribution of New Zealand digital content”.

Another suggestion is a “digital bill of rights” policed by the Human Rights Commission that would “guarantee a citizen privacy”.

Curran, who is associate communications and information technology spokeswoman and Labour’s spokeswoman on “open government”, said the ideas titled “ICT Policy Framework 2014” were sent to Adams’ office this morning. She did not personally send the email, she said.

They were not official Labour policy and it at least showed Labour had ideas, she said.

Curran has now released the five-page document, which outlines dozens of possible policy initiatives.

While the “digital content levy” appears the most controversial, it also suggests a review of New Zealand’s international connectivity and the ultrafast and rural broadband initiatives and strengthening the Commerce Commission.

Yeah ideas given to her by Kim Dotcom at her secret meetings that I revealed.

What I find amusing is that Labour is now proposing something that their Chief of Staff was front and centre opposing along with Labour when they were railroaded by Matthew Hooton’s little band of vested interests and their so-called Copper Tax campaign.

Now Curran and Labour are proposing something far worse than a copper tax…they are planning to tax the entire internet.

:groan:
WalOne (4202)
1369409 2014-03-04 21:47:00 Tax and spend, policy that is so last century.
New taxes effectively make the ~working class~ (labour voters) poorer.

Just wondering, are voting attitudes changing with the newer voters coming through?
Voters of an age that perhaps they see they are no freebies , everything costs somewhere. These new voters are NOT of the era when everything was expected to be paid for by the govt. They see there may be no big$ Superannuation when they hit retirement & will resent paying for something they will never get.
1101 (13337)
1369410 2014-03-04 23:33:00 Cameron Slater

Still don't trust that guy as far as I could throw him.
pcuser42 (130)
1369411 2014-03-05 00:23:00 I think he's fairly transparent. He's prepared to say what he thinks and challenge things that are wanting. Having said that, there is a certain amount of spin that needs to be tolerated / ignored / taken with a grain of salt :2cents: WalOne (4202)
1369412 2014-03-05 00:27:00 Slater has the credibility of his namesake. Basically, a less capable version of the Dung Beetle.
"Slaters are mainly scavengers. They are omnivorous, feeding on a variety of decaying vegetation, tree bark, rotting wood, etc." From here (soilbugs.massey.ac.nz). Thinking does not appear to be any part of it's characteristics.
Thank goodness he is not twins.
R2x1 (4628)
1369413 2014-03-05 00:46:00 Tax and spend, policy that is so last century.
New taxes effectively make the ~working class~ (labour voters) poorer.

Just wondering, are voting attitudes changing with the newer voters coming through?
Voters of an age that perhaps they see they are no freebies , everything costs somewhere. These new voters are NOT of the era when everything was expected to be paid for by the govt. They see there may be no big$ Superannuation when they hit retirement & will resent paying for something they will never get.

Nothing is ever "free".. even the free university education that the 50+ generation got back in the 70s was paid for by the hard working tax payer as were a lot of the think big projects that the Muldoon govt undertook. Of course our sheep and beef exports earned us a lot more back then too.

Back when Rob Muldoon was in govt in the mid 1970's the top tax rate was 60 cents on the dollar, so anyone earning over $60,000 a year had to pay 60% of their income to the taxman.

The top tax rate is currently $70,001 and over 33 cents

To the question of are peoples attitudes towards voting changing. I'd say from the 20 somethings that I have talked to, the general attitude seems to be "Why bother voting, because even if I do vote it won't be heard so why would I waste my time". To that I say, if you don't vote you don't have the right to complain about the shitty way the chosen govt decides to run the country.

Do I agree with John Keys decision to ban protests regarding off shore oil drilling. NO.
Do I agree with Labours proposed internet taxation policy. NO

Of those two, which would I consider to be the lesser of the two evils - Labour.

Labour sucked when Helen was in charge, and they still suck but not as much as National does with John Key.
Webdevguy (17166)
1369414 2014-03-05 02:11:00 If they have somebody like that as the Labour spokesperson for Communications and Information Technology, they have serious issues when she can't even use the most basic of technology by todays standards: Email

No, she's a fool, the whole idea of taxing ISP's is foolish!
They're also wanting to give every kid in certain schools a laptop? Fools. Complete and utter fools.
Chilling_Silence (9)
1369415 2014-03-05 02:39:00 Slater has the credibility of his namesake. Basically, a less capable version of the Dung Beetle.
"Slaters are mainly scavengers. They are omnivorous, feeding on a variety of decaying vegetation, tree bark, rotting wood, etc." From here (soilbugs.massey.ac.nz). Thinking does not appear to be any part of it's characteristics.
Thank goodness he is not twins.

LOL.

Tax....so what is he saying, it's a pay per thing?
Content - doesn't that (not counting piracy) get paid for anyway?
Or is it a sort of GST on it as well.

Bizarre....
pctek (84)
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