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Thread ID: 136380	2014-02-23 06:04:00	iPad alternative	Cicero (40)	PC World Chat

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1368459	2014-02-23 22:46:00	Or you can download the latest OS version via the system update settings. With iPhone or iPad you are notified as soon as the new iOS is available. The individual up updates are indicated via a red dot on the app store icon. Same for Android. Clearly you've not owned one or you'd know. Back when iOS had tethered updates (For around 3 years), Android was enjoying incremental OTA updates. However, rather than saying "Hi everybody, have the latest version, it'll be slow as dicks for days coz you're all saturating our bandwidth and when issues crop up you're all screwed." Android on the other hand is "Hi, there's an update. It's staggered with your phone model so 2% the first 48 hours, 10 % over the next week, then the remainder after that. This allows us to monitor and keep an eye on any potential issues that crop up, not to mention we don't have the whole world try to bring us to a crawl." Rose colored glasses mate...	Chilling_Silence (9)
1368460	2014-02-23 23:17:00	Same for Android. Clearly you've not owned one or you'd know. Back when iOS had tethered updates (For around 3 years), Android was enjoying incremental OTA updates. ... Of the 4 Android devices Ive owned, none have ever had a Update available. Security patches , yep, update to the new Android version: nope. Many Android devices on sale now have old Android versions on them.	1101 (13337)
1368461	2014-02-23 23:19:00	Yeah no, unless it's a Nexus device you will get the update when Samsung/Sony whoever decide to roll it out, not when Google decide to. Sometimes never, or so late that it's already out of date when they do release it. My S3 got 4.3 a week or so ago, yay.....I have seen whispers around the interwebs may be changing.	Alex B (15479)
1368462	2014-02-23 23:32:00	Rose colored glasses mate... Not entirely. I think it depends a lot on who you got your phone from. I know for the higher end models the updates are pretty consistent but for the cheaper lower end models I'm pretty sure that the OS version that the OEM stuck on it is the one you are stuck with for the life of the phone. I'm also aware that there are a lot of manufacturers out there who make Android phones. I know that Apple does have limit on legacy support. For instance the iPhone 3G will only go up to iPhone OS 4.2 or thereabouts, for the simple reason that the 3g model is not powerful enough to run anything higher. As for the user capacity regarding updates. Apple does its best to cater for what it predicts the demand to be via its server farms. Not sure how the Android guys do it.	Webdevguy (17166)
1368463	2014-02-23 23:56:00	Thanks for info lads, Cic, thought I would do a billy and let you know what you already know and put Cic.	Cicero (40)
1368464	2014-02-24 00:04:00	Thanks for info lads, Cic, thought I would do a billy and let you know what you already know and put Cic. Sweet, as long as you are happy with your purchase :thumbs: Although I'm an iPad, iPhone owner my money would be on Cicero getting an Android tablet of some description, considering that the preference on this forum seems to be more in favour of Android devices than iDevices.	Webdevguy (17166)
1368465	2014-02-24 01:22:00	People like choice, yes I agree there's a preference for android around here but I've seldom seen anyone truly bashing apple . I've been impressed by what I've seen of apple myself but have gone with android simply because I wanted a bigger screen on my Phone (I find iPhones a little small) and then having gotten familiar with android I chose an android tablet when I got one - having one account across multiple devices improves the experienc eand I think that's true of whichever way you go . As to using a tablet as a camera, I think it looks comical and wouldn't carry one for that purpose but it certainly works well enough and having a big screen really does give you a much better Idea of what the picture will look like . I've used my transformer TF300T with it's 10 . 1" screen as a camera a few times and can see the attraction . It only has an 8MP camera but the photos still look Quite good . I think if it's something you plan to use a tablet for a bit It would be worth reading some reviews and checking camera specs . I get the feeling manufacturers have focussed more on phone cameras than tablet ones but I'm sure the same tech finds it's way into the tablets . I like the Samsung range of tablets as well and the Sony ones are pretty nice too - but I never consider the camera when looking at tablets for me personally as I either use my phone or my digital camera for that . Asus have some models that have intrigued me as well, I considered the 10" tablet/phone combo (phone docks into the tablet)	dugimodo (138)
1368466	2014-02-24 01:27:00	Its surprisng that someone who hates bloatware likes samsung. Simply have to suck it in when they are all doing it, Much like laptops. Just glad we can still assemble our own boxes and only install the desired software. The Samsung out of the box is a travesty, and even after removing all the media delivery crap they infect it with there is still a bunch of filth running behind that scenes that is part of the install.	Metla (12)
1368467	2014-02-24 01:39:00	The Samsung out of the box is a travesty, and even after removing all the media delivery crap they infect it with there is still a bunch of filth running behind that scenes that is part of the install. At least with the likes of the SGS4 you can install the Google Play Edition firmware!! Did that for my old HTC One, back in the day...	Chilling_Silence (9)
1368468	2014-02-24 06:46:00	If we are talking vulnerabilities, here's a list of the Android (www.cvedetails.com) ones... The bottom line is that just about every electronic device will have vulnerabilities if you look hard enough although the some vulnerabilities are more easily exploited on certain platforms than they are on others. The "openness" and the design of the Android platform and looser control of the Android market place makes those vulnerabilities more easily exploitable than any vulnerabilities on the iOS platform. Cicero, you say you were impressed with the iPad camera but that you would prefer to get an alternative device if there is one for a similar price... or a bit cheaper. Is that because you have a aversion to owning any iDevice? I'm not worried either way, I'm just curious as to your rationale. Couldn't see anything in that list of so-called vulnerabilities that are applicable to the latest version on Android (4.4.2) - and that's what you'll get buying a new Nexus device. Most of that list relates to ancient versions of the OS and/or very specific devices and/or non-use of the official Play store. The same can probably be said of iDevices - the vulnerabilities are there, but are very obscure... I have been running Android devices for four years plus (not only Nexus devices) and have never had an issue. As for "looser control of the Android market place" (it's called the "Play Store" BTW) - it is true that developers don't have to jump through the same hoops that iOS developers do, but Google certainly does police the Play Store... Most Android vulnerabilities will be exploited on the knock-off, non-name brand devices whose manufacturers customise (badly) the OS and then abandon the device from an OS update POV. Mostly Chinese crap... Stick to name brands and you're pretty safe - although the life span of non-Nexus devices (again from an OS update POV) is a lot more limited than a Nexus device...	johcar (6283)
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