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Thread ID: 56917	2005-04-18 08:53:00	Firefox has more security flaws than IE!!!	Billy T (70)	Press F1

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346376	2005-04-18 10:35:00	I have a Linux box running in the shop at the moment if you want to sit down and see what its like (well,what the gui is like anyway) my experience with Linux is limited. This one didn't like the video card,so the res is stuck at 640x480,it detected the network card correctly but it was unable to configure it properly so no net... So far it has been used for a few games of connect 4....... :nerd: :eek:	Metla (12)
346377	2005-04-18 11:18:00	Your halo is slipping slipper boy..................... :eek: :lol: beetle	beetle (243)
346378	2005-04-18 11:47:00	I actually bothered to read the informationweek article, and did look at the CERT site. The article is not useful at all to determine whether IE or FF is safer, because it is very general and the cited CERT papers do not back up the claims in the article very well. Most of the CERT papers I skimmed say that Windows and has far more vulnerabilities than Linux/Unix. A better site to look at browser vulnerabilites is Secunia (www.secunia.com) as it summarises the findings very well for IE, Mozilla and Opera.	vinref (6194)
346379	2005-04-18 13:57:00	Billy I have to say the that Fred Langa's write up is on the whole a load of twaddle. Not all mind, in fact there is a lot that is correct, it's just that it's irretrievably tainted by the spin and misinformation Fred has interpersed throughout. The "Leap of Logic" analogy for eg, is exactly correct in one respect, it's a leap from talking % of disatisfied customers to instances of vulnerabilities found to numbers of vulnerabilities per application or OS. He then damns FF/Mozilla by faint praise, lists complaints about problems that are by and large of MS's proprieatary making if you relly want to look at it objectively. Fred then ladels on a bit more faint praise for good measure and pulls the partisan trick out. Helloooo Fred, getting your kettles and pots a bit confused are we? Fred is, unfortunately, known for this type of writing particularly when it comes to defending or pitching on behalf of one of his favourites. If you took that type of logic, math and pure spin and used it as evidence, I'd suggest you'd get routed good and proper, you see what I mean. No software is perfect, FF/Mozilla ceratinly has a way to go in that respect. Personally I'd rather struggle with the odd lousy website, or leave them off my list entirely, than be open to the documented severe vulnerabilities inherent in IE and therefore Windows. If you do not understand the differences in how the software is put together and how it interacts with the world and users, a bit more research might see you right. But, you must also be happy with where you're at and what your using, so long as no damage is done to others, all power to you. Oh, BTW, I don't mind being sucked into a troll, especially a wee one which has some genuine thought behind it.	Murray P (44)
346380	2005-04-18 22:20:00	This has brought some very interesting feelings out. There always has and always will be vulnerabilities in any software. Linux definately wins on the server market (There's quite a few BSD boxes out there too), apache is incredibly common but has also had its share of vulnerabilities. To be honest, I dont mind the exploits that come along occasionally. I just saw a vulnerability (and the exploit code) for Firefox that would make and run a .bat file on the C: Drive. Now I couldnt care less about that because .bat files mean precious little to me. I like the idea of comparing leaving the door wide open to a few holes in the wall, however either way those holes are smaller and easier to overlook... shouldnt have been there in the first place either way. Basically Im getting at: Linux and Open-Source programmers have developed a reputation they need to uphold. There WILL be vulnerabilities and exploits, its part of programming, but the less the better, and having a much more secure base of an OS (in the instance of Linux) means that a lot less damage can be done even if something is r00ted. Anybody tried the latest Ark Linux?	Chilling_Silence (9)
346381	2005-04-18 22:23:00	PJ, If I lived locally I would be at your place today :) However you dont need me to install Ark Linux. Its a three click installation. http://www.arklinux.org You select your language & Timezone, then resize your Windows Partition (It doesnt lose any data) to leave room for it to install. Couldnt be simpler! I cant remember if you're on Broadband, but give it a whirl :) I'll start downloading it tonight, just to make sure they havent changed the install process since the beta releases. Chill.	Chilling_Silence (9)
346382	2005-04-19 04:13:00	This may be of interest: www.idm.net.au	Chilling_Silence (9)
346383	2005-04-19 04:57:00	I guess I ought to confess, my thread was a gentle "tongue in cheek" tease for the Firefox disciples . My apologies to Tony, I did a quick check to see if the topic had been posted already but somehow I missed his post . As for views about the credibility or bona fides of Fred Langa, he probably wouldn't think too much of the opinions of any of us either, and at the level he publishes, he is well respected by a wider audience than PF1 enjoys so it is each to his own I guess . Cheers Billy 8-{):p	Billy T (70)
346384	2005-04-19 06:35:00	I guess I ought to confess, my thread was a gentle "tongue in cheek" tease for the Firefox disciples . My apologies to Tony, I did a quick check to see if the topic had been posted already but somehow I missed his post . As for views about the credibility or bona fides of Fred Langa, he probably wouldn't think too much of the opinions of any of us either, and at the level he publishes, he is well respected by a wider audience than PF1 enjoys so it is each to his own I guess . Cheers Billy 8-{):p Yes of course Billy, noticed it, but where there's smoke there's apt to be fire too eh! ;) I think Freds published views are respected in some respected circles as much as some hardware site's reviews are respected in other circles, if you get my drift . Despite that, I have Fred's website bookmarked and often head there for a browse . Much of Fred's purely technical writing is very informative but, like many of us, me included, he has his distinct biases which are reflected in his opinion pieces . The trouble with the opinion pieces is that, a lot of people look to Fred for technical leadership and confuse these pieces with objective technical articles .	Murray P (44)
346385	2005-04-19 07:51:00	Some points though, although said tongue in cheek, are quite valid!	Chilling_Silence (9)
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