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Thread ID: 57072 2005-04-23 01:28:00 Anti-Virus on CD? bk T (215) Press F1
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347750 2005-04-23 02:55:00 Mark, you're talking about copying the AVG's install file and install it on the infected pc? But how do you update the program and virus definitions before scanning the pc?

UM urh. I didn't. I din't want to connect to the net. But it worked.
mark c (247)
347751 2005-04-23 03:29:00 I use avg quite often like this and i carry the setup file around on cd and my flashdisk also I carry the updates around, (and i DO keep them up to date) it's very simple ........you can also do this with some versions of norton.....i've found the version of norton a/v on the system works cd is perfectly installable without registering online and you can use 'intelligent updater' to update if offline as soon as you have installed it..........

avg updates: free.grisoft.com
norton intelligent updater: securityresponse.symantec.com
drcspy (146)
347752 2005-04-23 03:33:00 There are other live-CD's that offer antivirus programs such as INSERT (www.inside-security.de), but as always they will probably be out of date with the definitions. When I am cleaning out other people's machines, I just download a fresh copy of AVG and also grab the latest manual update definition file so that you can update the program manually (just put the definition dat file into the correct directory). I also include the latest version of stinger to get rid of the recent nasties in the first sweep and then let AVG deal with the left-overs. I don't let the machine get back onto the internet until it is virus/trojan/malware free so take all the tools on a CD with me. You can put all the "rescue" tools onto a flash pen as well if you know they run XP (don't want to load USB pen drivers on older OS's first).

If the machine has never been on the internet, it would of only been infected via infected files loaded from CD or floppies. This will of limited to how many viruses it would have. Which brings me to:
If the infected pc has no Anti-virus program installed and has got no Internet access available, how do we go about to remove the viruses?Why do you think the machine has a virus if there is no AV installed to alert you and hasn't had internet access? Has it ever had internet access?

If this machine regularly loads files sourced from at risk machines, then you would need to manual update it with definition files downloaded from a internet capable machine and then transferred to the other computer.
Jen (38)
347753 2005-04-23 05:26:00 well said Jen, I was wondering how the machine would get infected if it didn't have a net connection. Maybe from being around infected machines? a kind of airborne virus? theother1 (3573)
347754 2005-04-23 05:53:00 theother1

In my experience......

careless users + floppies/CDs+ (most likely) games & freeware = trouble (AKA viruses/malware)
mark c (247)
347755 2005-04-23 08:30:00 It is quite easy to get infected without Internet connection. The last MSBlaster proved that. Standford Uni for example, didn't get infected from the net, but from infected laptops connecting onto their network from students and tutors.

Also, as the user cannot download programs, then they are more likely to receive their programs from users that download them on their behalf. Sometimes trojans and worms come along for the ride.
pheonix (36)
347756 2005-04-23 13:18:00 I would use Stinger (vil.nai.com) Rob99 (151)
347757 2005-04-23 16:38:00 YES ....good but very limited drcspy (146)
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