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348534 2005-04-25 02:36:00 Hello

I am looking to purchase a second hand graphics card, it is an Albatron GeForce 6800 GT 8 times AGP card. I am in the throws of up grading my computer, I have not got the new motherboard as of yet (which will be 8 times AGP). My question is this, the web sight appears to suggest that either a times 4 or eight slot is needed. It is definately a times eight card. Am I right in assuming that it will work on my current times four AGP motherboard? Below is the link.

www.albatron.com.tw

Thank you for any help on this matter... Shomenno
shomenno (7767)
348535 2005-04-25 02:40:00 yep it will work, but it will be throttled back to 4x Mirddes (10)
348536 2005-04-25 03:01:00 The card will run fine on AGP 8x, however it will be throttled to the equivalent speed of 4x. I definitely do recommend that you plan to upgrade to AGP 8x in the future though.

You could even go with PCI-Express if you feel like it. Tell me more of your computers specs and I'll see if there's a good PCI-E motherboard out there to suit your system.
Aurealis_ (7897)
348537 2005-04-25 03:05:00 The card will run fine on AGP 8x, however it will be throttled to the equivalent speed of 4x . I definitely do recommend that you plan to upgrade to AGP 8x in the future though .

You could even go with PCI-Express if you feel like it . Tell me more of your computers specs and I'll see if there's a good PCI-E motherboard out there to suit your system .
That would then make the current 6800GT obsolete . PCI-E boards don't have an AGP slot .


The card is great - just upgrade to a new AGP based board will be fine .
pctek (84)
348538 2005-04-25 05:17:00 Well I know I need a new graphics card and memory and thus a motherboard. I am opting for the AGP card as it is for sale second hand and thus cheaper than a new one. I figure the second hand card is better than a PCI 6600 GT with 256mb. So the compromise is an AGP based motherboard, this is no big deal as I have four cards in my current machine and so PCI slots are more important to me - PCIe based motherboards dont seem to have many PCI slots.

The question is also arround whether I should change CPU's too. Currently have a P4 (Northwood) 2.53 with a 133 FSB and 533 bus speed. The alternatve to this would be an AMD athalon 64 3500+ cpu. Its all dont to the extra cash and speed gains and I am not sure?

Will go for 1 Gig DDR 400.

Any suggestions with regard to motherboards given the above and the CPU (being worth upgrading - in real terms).

Cheers... Shomennno
shomenno (7767)
348539 2005-04-25 05:22:00 That would then make the current 6800GT obsolete. PCI-E boards don't have an AGP slot.


The card is great - just upgrade to a new AGP based board will be fine.

Indeed it would Pctek, I should have been more clear. What I meant was that shomenno could go with a complete PCI-E setup instead, seeing as he already has plans to upgrade the motherboard.
Aurealis_ (7897)
348540 2005-04-25 08:43:00 The question is also arround whether I should change CPU's too . Currently have a P4 (Northwood) 2 . 53 with a 133 FSB and 533 bus speed . The alternatve to this would be an AMD athalon 64 3500+ cpu . Its all dont to the extra cash and speed gains and I am not sure?

Will go for 1 Gig DDR 400 .

Any suggestions with regard to motherboards given the above and the CPU (being worth upgrading - in real terms) .
What do you use your computer for? Are you a gamer? If so, then upgrading the CPU will make a bit of difference, particularly if you upgrade everything else, eg the graphics card and more RAM .

If you are not a gamer then you won't notice a significant increase in speed to justify upgrading the CPU at this stage . A little, yes, but not a great deal because the P4 2 . 53 is not really a slug . Upgrading your graphics card and increasing the RAM will be more sensible . The only catch is that if your current motherboard can only support a 4x graphics card then I am not sure what kind of improvement you would get with a new card .
FoxyMX (5)
348541 2005-04-25 10:34:00 Don't get too hung up on graphics card "potential". Very few gaming applications make that much of the bandwidth available through the AGP slot, let alone PCI-E. PaulD (232)
348542 2005-04-25 11:31:00 Don't get too hung up on graphics card "potential". Very few gaming applications make that much of the bandwidth available through the AGP slot, let alone PCI-E.
Yeah to add to that Ati have recently brought out their X850 XT PE onto AGP and it still does very well.

I wouldn't really recommend a high end card going into an old board with a 4x slot. I remember buying a Radeon 9800 Pro and putting it in my old system (2400+ with 384MB of PC-133 RAM, AGP 4x). Gameplay was worse than a MX440, very laggy etc. So I would say it's not a good idea to pair a 6800GT with an old chipset/CPU/RAM because the rest of the system will be a rather large bottleneck for the graphics card.

What you're really looking at is a full system upgrade or replacement, so I can see costs escalating. Depending on the rest of the system you could probably salvage the floppy drive, CD-RW/DVDRW and maybe the monitor and sell the rest on Trademe if you wanted to recover some costs.
E|im (87)
348543 2005-04-26 23:49:00 Albatron and Elitegroup make mobos that support both AGP express AND PCI-e graphics slot. xmojo1 (4630)
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