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Thread ID: 136566	2014-03-16 22:59:00	Security Risks: RFID Tap&Go credit/debit cards.	Billy T (70)	PC World Chat

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1370351	2014-03-16 22:59:00	. Watch the Video (youtube.googleapis.com) and see how easy it is to grab your card data. Video shows a hotel room key (card) being rewritten with bank data then used as a credit card. Cheers Billy 8-{) RFID Free	Billy T (70)
1370352	2014-03-16 23:13:00	I've got one a debit card. Go for it, they wont get much, there's nothing on it :p	Speedy Gonzales (78)
1370353	2014-03-16 23:22:00	Easy fix, just take a hammer to it.	Agent_24 (57)
1370354	2014-03-17 00:50:00	And banks think this is security? My sock draw is more secure.	dugimodo (138)
1370355	2014-03-17 03:03:00	It's more secure than handing over your card to somebody else who writes down the details and can then spend up large. In this instance they've gotta be physically very very close to you, and the card never leaves your person. It's called "NFC" (Near-field communication), for a reason. They've gotta be right on your ass and you'll know about it. The theoretical maximum range is ~10cm, though in reality it's usually around 1cm.	Chilling_Silence (9)
1370356	2014-03-17 17:48:00	And if someone bumps into you in a line will you suspect your credit card details have just been stolen? The main thing is that in this day in age transmitting the data unencrypted so anyone with the technical know how can steal it is just poor security design. The banks should know better, this guy has clearly demonstrated a major security flaw. And I never hand my card over to anyone except a cashier and then I can watch what they do the whole time, if they took it out of my sight I would be immediately suspicious as the card reader tends to be right in front of them. Also electronics.howstuffworks.com RFID is not NFC RFID often works well at distances of many feet still think it's safer than handing your card over at the counter?	dugimodo (138)
1370357	2014-03-17 18:34:00	My phone doesn't even pick up either my payWave card or my HOP card unless it's right next to it, so I'm not worried.	pcuser42 (130)
1370358	2014-03-17 22:23:00	With tap & go , you need to constantly check you CC account, to look for bogus CC transactions . Couldnt you be charged for the next guys purchase if they ring that up too soon . ?? Or the previous persons transaction, in a busy shop . The shop assistants running these things will be on min wage, probably part timers who dont really care . Plus I want to see how much Im ACTUALLY being charged . My bank issued me a new Visa card with Tap & go built in (also has the security chip) I dont want tap & go, but now have no choice, as they are going to cancel my old non-tap card . I have seen some vids on guys drilling the cards to disable the built in arial .	1101 (13337)
1370359	2014-03-17 22:51:00	This pretty near the bottom of my list of things to be overly concerned about. Every time you use a card to buy something on line you run the risk of it being missused by someone and in my opinion that is more likely than someone stealing your card details by NFC while it is in your pocket. If you are a bit paranoid just wrap it in foil. Keep a close eye on your balances and if they look at all suspect then find out why ASAP. Unless you are doing something rather silly it is all at the Banks risk anyway.	CliveM (6007)
1370360	2014-03-17 23:55:00	And if someone bumps into you in a line will you suspect your credit card details have just been stolen? The main thing is that in this day in age transmitting the data unencrypted so anyone with the technical know how can steal it is just poor security design . The banks should know better, this guy has clearly demonstrated a major security flaw . And I never hand my card over to anyone except a cashier and then I can watch what they do the whole time, if they took it out of my sight I would be immediately suspicious as the card reader tends to be right in front of them . Also . howstuffworks . com/difference-between-rfid-and-nfc . htm" target="_blank">electronics . howstuffworks . com RFID is not NFC still think it's safer than handing your card over at the counter? Back to your quoted article; have a quick skim over the first 2 paragraphs . This bit, "When acronyms attack, people get confused . That's especially true when two acronyms stand for a couple of very similar wireless technologies . In this case, our geeky acronyms are NFC and RFID, two close cousins in a world filled with wireless wizardry . NFC stands for near field communication, while RFID means radio frequency identification . . . " Carrier pigeons have a range of many km, but I don't see any threat to my credit card if a sparrow flies by . Sparrows ain't pigeons, and pigeons don't handle my credit details, just as RFID is not NFC, and RFID does not handle my data . They are birds of a different feather .	R2x1 (4628)
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