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Thread ID: 136569	2014-03-17 04:19:00	When can you cancel a cheque?	Nomad (952)	PC World Chat

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1370439	2014-03-18 03:07:00	As someone mentioned "FairGo" would have a picnic with this one. $20,000 down to $7,000 is definitely a "rip-off" as there must surely be a margin of profit in the $7,000 now given for the revised cost. Lurking. The neighbour had a master painter which was $24k just the 2 sided walls b/c 1 side was just painted and the other was sandwiched to the neighbour - 100yr old Wellington houses. They've and I've asked around to confirm it - it does appear to be $20-30k as the "going rate" to paint a 2 floor house. The paint is just 3x $200 10 litre containers. With 1x 10L undercoat. Brushes, ladders, which they already have. Scaffold we have been quoted at $1500 for setting up and dismantling and $20/day. But my understanding is traders can get the paint and brushes and the scaffold for roughly 1/2 price that end customers can. The cheapest I heard from others was $15k and one fella which was the exception somewhere else in the country - he charged $25 or was it $50/hour + expense. But the so called going rate seems to be like $100/hr for a 3 week job. We had a plumber in half a year ago. An itemised receipt. To replace the shower head / water mixer with a new one that is a rail system that you can adjust up / down. Came to about $1,000. The itemised parts like the shower head and the mixer was slightly more than what Bunnings sold. Then there was labour on top, silicon sealant etc ... A year ago we bought the shower head and tap but the same plumber wouldn't install it (probably that he couldn't get more profit off the parts).	Nomad (952)
1370440	2014-03-18 03:23:00	^that was $100/hr for labour for 2 workers so per the project $200/hr.	Nomad (952)
1370441	2014-03-18 04:36:00	We had a plumber in half a year ago. An itemised receipt. To replace the shower head / water mixer with a new one that is a rail system that you can adjust up / down. Came to about $1,000. The itemised parts like the shower head and the mixer was slightly more than what Bunnings sold. Then there was labour on top, silicon sealant etc ... . What??!!! Seriously over priced there. Labour must have been enormous.	pctek (84)
1370442	2014-03-18 05:03:00	What??!!! Seriously over priced there. Labour must have been enormous. We thought he didn't wanna do it. Cos we went to Placemakers and got the shower and the tap. He said the behind the the shower didn't have the foundation to hold the rail up. Some months later the leaking shower got to us - we don't have metered water. Then we just said just wanted a ordinary shower (old style) and a new mixer and if possible could you put in a rail. So he does that. ~$200 for the Methven rail shower, $350 for the Methvn mixer, 3hr of labour $60-70/hr I recalled. The owner plumber put the shower up maybe 0.7hr and he went off to another job and his staff member did the mixer for like 2hr or so .. I recall that half a tube of sealant was itemised for like $20. I was thinking the whole tube prob only cost $25 at Bunnings. But then ... we didn't have the expertise to do the job. And then last but not least - GST.	Nomad (952)
1370443	2014-03-18 10:52:00	Technically cancelling a cheque is fraud. That is because it is a bill of exchange and the moment you hand the cheque to another person you are deemed to intend that the order on your account be met. But don't worry. It happens all the time and usually for good reason. The police are seldom interested.	Winston001 (3612)
1370444	2014-03-18 17:51:00	We thought he didn't wanna do it. Cos we went to Placemakers and got the shower and the tap. He said the behind the the shower didn't have the foundation to hold the rail up. Some months later the leaking shower got to us - we don't have metered water. Then we just said just wanted a ordinary shower (old style) and a new mixer and if possible could you put in a rail. So he does that. ~$200 for the Methven rail shower, $350 for the Methvn mixer, 3hr of labour $60-70/hr I recalled. The owner plumber put the shower up maybe 0.7hr and he went off to another job and his staff member did the mixer for like 2hr or so .. I recall that half a tube of sealant was itemised for like $20. I was thinking the whole tube prob only cost $25 at Bunnings. But then ... we didn't have the expertise to do the job. And then last but not least - GST. I told husband that last night, he was rather astounded at the cost. He said a decent shower part would be around $120 from Bunnings. Even with a mixer it's a lot. Foundation....hmmm.....perhaps, but that's a builders thing....did he have one do that? $200 + $350 + 3 x $70 ($210) is $660. How does that come to $1000. Anyway most plumbers don't buy their stuff at Bunnings, they buy them trade from places like Chesters, Mico Wakefield, Franklins etc.... However, occasionally it is worth it to buy from Bunnings. Toilets for instance. Ridiculous price for the separate components from Trade...Bunnings (or Mitre 10?) entire suite $139 .... Also some tapware, although you have to watch quality....	pctek (84)
1370445	2014-03-18 20:40:00	FYI, I got the invoice . Mixer 339 Shower head 161 Jumbo faceplate to cover the prev mixer 111 compression fittings 19 copper pipe 11 brass elbows 66 1/4 tube silicon 8 brass tube 3 WPFlange 1 Labour 0 . 5hr (owner) 37 Labour 2 . 5hr (staff) 155 Not related labour to check for other leaks 2 . 0hr = 137 Transport 30 GST 160 . Total 1226 . Less the 100 +GST for the leak detection for our gas water unit and gas heater unit . So for the bathroom alone over $1,000 . My dad cross his name off his fridge magnet and for someone else now . On the first visit which he refused to do, he was just knocking the shower wall with his hand and says there might be a lack of foundation and that it would be best to just install a ordinary shower head or to install a brand new shower cube et al . . . . which he quoted us $4,000 all up . He also said that he would install only reputable parts ie ones from ZIP, Master Trade etc . . . aka NZ products . Initially we bought a Methven shower rail unit and a Toto mixer but he said the latter was a European design which was difficult to install and of a lesser quality .	Nomad (952)
1370446	2014-03-19 01:19:00	Labour 0.5hr (owner) 37 Labour 2.5hr (staff) 155 Not related labour to check for other leaks 2.0hr = 137 Transport 30 GST 160. He also said that he would install only reputable parts ie ones from ZIP, Master Trade etc ... aka NZ products. Initially we bought a Methven shower rail unit and a Toto mixer but he said the latter was a European design which was difficult to install and of a lesser quality. Ah...2 labours. Well 3 inc not related. Methven is good and reputable parts, yeah, he has a point, there is a lot of inferior rubbish around in the DIY stores.	pctek (84)
1370447	2014-03-19 01:29:00	Hindsight is a fine thing, BUT alarm Bells should have gone off when there was drop in price form 20K to 7K for the same job?? If 20 K was the going rate then maybe a little bit cheaper but not by that much. OMFG, HTF some people get by is beyond me!....this is exactly right WT...Hello, hellooooooooo! I dont know if there is anything that gets paid for up front...thats just a con!	SolMiester (139)
1370448	2014-03-19 01:35:00	Ah...2 labours. Well 3 inc not related. Methven is good and reputable parts, yeah, he has a point, there is a lot of inferior rubbish around in the DIY stores. 0.5hr by the owner, 2.5hr is his staff member. 3hr together for the bathroom. The other 2hr was testing for leaks elsewhere in the house. A total of 5hrs was invoiced.	Nomad (952)
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