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1384136	2014-09-18 05:25:00	My Acer Aspire all in one has faulted again. It seems that a "Process or thread crucial to system has unexpectantly exited or been terminated". Details are :- Stop:0x1000000F4 (0x0000003, 0xFFFFFA006CBBB30,oxFFFFFA8006CBBE1o,0xFFFF8000479 6870) Can anyone interpret the above. Following on from this I found Startup Repair Problem Details, with the note Startup cannot repair the computer automatically. The event name is StartupRepairOffline Signature 01 is 6.1.7600.16385 Signature 02 is 6.1.7600.16385 Signature 03 is unknown Signature 04 is 21200554 Signature 05 is AutoFailOver Signature 06 is 14 Signature 07 is 0xF4 Local is 1033 Well that's it, must say none of the above actually means anything to me, but it might mean something to someone !	curly (6655)
1384137	2014-09-18 06:22:00	According to Microsoft, the code is usually hardware related. While the post from MS says XP it will relate to what ever OS you have The 00000003 is your clue that it is a hardware issue. answers.microsoft.com You need to run memory and HDD tests, being "Startup cannot repair the computer automatically" some system Files can be damaged, now that can only be caused by hardware or software (no kidding :) ) "IF" its a HDD problem you may need to replace the HDD and reinstall Windows, and recover any wanted data from the Old drive if it will let you. The last one I had with that type of Warning "Startup cannot repair the computer automatically" The HDD had many failed sectors, and screwed the OS. You need to eliminate or confirm the Hard Ware is OK first, other wise you may be going around in circles going nowhere fast.	wainuitech (129)
1384138	2014-09-19 07:58:00	Well took your advise, stripped down the all in one (probably will never go again now :-) ), removed the ram, but could only take it out and reseat it again a few times. Removed the WD HDD, a 640 gb, but how do I test it ? I have a Windows Vista machine as well as the All in one Acer, but could I put this maybe faulty drive into the Vista computer, fire it up and see what happens ? Or will that bugger everything up ?	curly (6655)
1384139	2014-09-19 10:35:00	Errrrrr You didn't have to strip it ( yet) I didn't say to strip it. You can test RAM and HDD from bootable CD's. ( memtest for ram, and WD in this case) has Drive testing software. BUT since its apart, you can connect the HDD to another PC and boot it up. Thats actually a good test as well, if it "hangs" with the WD drive that will mean there's some sort of hardware damage usually Eg: bad sectors, connections etc. Go to western Digital site, locate the drive you have, select the software for it. support.wdc.com Once drive is selected, download the Data Lifeguard Diagnostics, install it, select your drive from the options, and run it. One other quick test /report is crystalmark.info Make sure you don't select the one with Open Candy. Once run select the WD drive and it will give a health report, bad sectors etc. If there is any important data on teh drive, and Vista can read the drive now would be a good time to copy it to Vista or plug in USB drive and copy to that ( just in case it needs a reinstall) One thing that can sometimes happen, is when you slave the drive and fire up the PC (vista) it "may" scan the drive and repair it, or warn about a failure. Had it happen a few times when trying to fix a buggered OS, nothing would work, slave the drive to recover the data , the host (generally W7) offered to repair, it did its thing and then the original booted fine. Sometimes a Bootable CD/repair simply wont do it. You can also right click on the drive / Properties /Tools / Check and run chkdsk from within windows, When putting back together as long as you do it in reverse when stripping it should be fine, just make sure you dont scratch any circuits on the boards or drop things like screws internally. Usual trick is putting it all back and having screws left over - wondering where they hell they went :D guilty ;)	wainuitech (129)
1384140	2014-09-23 04:26:00	Hi curly, It looks like there's a hardware problem with the boot drive, or a device driver has a bug or a critical service was stopped. This is a fatal Windows error, typically called a Stop message, Bug Check, or more commonly the Blue Screen of Death (BSoD). The system is in a forced reboot state. Any unsaved work is likely lost. You may try the following solutions and fixes as per below. 1) Confirm the hard disk cables are good and connected securely. (Microsoft article - support.microsoft.com) 2) Recheck that the drives are properly installed and the cabling has not changed. Switching cables to different motherboard connectors or changing the master/slave drive jumpers (on old ATA drives) can cause this problem. In some systems, the cables were not plugged into the drive or motherboard securely and may have worked loose. Re-seat all drive connectors. 3) It's also possible a hard drive is failing. Use WD Data Lifeguard Diagnostics to validate the drive or swap to another hard disk. (DLGDIAG - wdc.custhelp.com) 4) Check if you are using the latest hardware drivers, especially the chipset and video drivers. Older drivers are a common contributor to BSoD issues. If you know the hardware is good and you have a current backup or image of the drive, you could reformat the hard drive and start over. This is often the last resort when all else fails, as you will often lose your latest settings and important data. If you have a spare drive, it may be worth it to install the drive in place of the first drive and do a fresh install of Windows. This will help confirm if this is a hardware or software issue (unless the original system drive is the source of the problem). Let us know how it goes.	tommykw_wd (17296)
1384141	2014-09-23 21:58:00	OT but a bit strange WT, it Seems youve been re-named Santa :) www.techonce.net Just what is that site is hoping to achieve buy copying the Pf1 forum ?	1101 (13337)
1384142	2014-09-23 22:06:00	OT but a bit strange WT, it Seems youve been re-named Santa :) www.techonce.net Just what is that site is hoping to achieve buy copying the Pf1 forum ? EeeWWWWWWWWWW ---- Wasn't me that posted on the other site, never even knew it existed. COPYRIGHT - COPYRIGHT -COPYRIGHT - COPYRIGHT	wainuitech (129)
1384143	2014-09-23 22:11:00	aumha.org " 0x000000F4: CRITICAL_OBJECT_TERMINATION One of the many processes or threads crucial to system operation has unexpectedly exited or been terminated. As a result, the system can no longer function. Specific causes are many, and often best resolved by a careful history of the problem and the circumstances of the error message. " These things can be a nightmare to track down. Some stop errors are just too generic to tell you anything usefull. So start with the basics,the more common faults as suggested above. Run a hard drive surface scan/ FULL HD diag . Run a mem test via bootable CD (memtest86+) www.memtest.org If the RAM & HD check out OK, the quickest fix to try will be a wipe & reload. If Win installs without issue, often the problem has been solved. Otherwise you may need to try another power supply , another vid card (assuming its not laptop) Also check for overheating, faulty fans or clogged heatsinks (unlikely though)	1101 (13337)
1384144	2014-09-24 04:59:00	My Acer Aspire all in one has faulted again. It seems that a "Process or thread crucial to system has unexpectantly exited or been terminated". Details are :- Stop:0x1000000F4 (0x0000003, 0xFFFFFA006CBBB30,oxFFFFFA8006CBBE1o,0xFFFF8000479 6870) Can anyone interpret the above. Following on from this I found Startup Repair Problem Details, with the note Startup cannot repair the computer automatically. The event name is StartupRepairOffline Signature 01 is 6.1.7600.16385 Signature 02 is 6.1.7600.16385 Signature 03 is unknown Signature 04 is 21200554 Signature 05 is AutoFailOver Signature 06 is 14 Signature 07 is 0xF4 Local is 1033 Well that's it, must say none of the above actually means anything to me, but it might mean something to someone ! If you have 2 sticks of RAM, you could try remove just one to see if you can boot. Usually run 2 sticks will mean dual channel and requires identical RAM in perfect condition.	SolMiester (139)
1384145	2014-09-24 08:58:00	If you have 2 sticks of RAM, you could try remove just one to see if you can boot. Usually run 2 sticks will mean dual channel and requires identical RAM in perfect condition. At this stage looking like a hardware problem, have swapped the two sticks of ram around, but the computer did not start up at all. Meantime the HDD is with a local computer shop for a few days, while it HDD is being tested. Only just found that even without a HDD being installed, the BIOS actually started, but stopped because of no HDD. Prior to this I have had the message, Boot manager not found, which I presume is located on the HDD, that being so might point to a faulty HDD as well. Anyway, should know on Friday when I get the HDD back again. Thanks for your input.	curly (6655)
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