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Thread ID: 57319	2005-04-29 11:52:00	How to deal with persistent spammer	Peter M (852)	Press F1

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
350302	2005-04-30 03:48:00	lol just learn how to use mailwasher which you already have it has the capability to very easily do what you want..........just RIGHT clik ONE of those spam messages in the list in mailwasher then clik on 'blacklist entire domain' ......then no matter who/what they call themselves if it still comes from @version.com mailwasher will bounce it automatically for you....	drcspy (146)
350303	2005-04-30 03:57:00	Blacklisting an ISP is not very useful . Peter wants to be able to receive mail from people, who might use that ISP . What he needs is some way to be protected from scum . The changing "return" address probably protects the scum from Verizon's output count . Try the abuse@verizon . com and abuse@verizon . net addresses . If they don't work, presumably they have a homepage, which will have information about their services (including a "complaints" address) .	Graham L (2)
350304	2005-04-30 04:36:00	That will only work if the sender is always the same and he said that the senders name changes each time by one letter. Very true,in my case they got sick of it first :)	Cicero (40)
350305	2005-04-30 13:42:00	Blacklisting an ISP is not very useful . Peter wants to be able to receive mail from people, who might use that ISP . What he needs is some way to be protected from scum . The changing "return" address probably protects the scum from Verizon's output count . Try the abuse@verizon . com and abuse@verizon . net addresses . If they don't work, presumably they have a homepage, which will have information about their services (including a "complaints" address) . God . Bad advice . It'd be great if people did take the time to make sure they have some idea what they are talking about before giving peple advice . THIS JUST IN: Spammers fake their addresses . In new shock tactics spammers are known to use invalid addresses, usually not even the same address as the ISP they are connecting through . Chances are you won't be able to e-mail Verizon anyway due to their retardeed "block APNIC IP space" spam filter . However even if you do, I'd stake some big dollars that it's not originating from there . I get spam reports regularly from idiots "SOMEONE AT YOUR DOMAIN IS SPAMMING!!!!!!!! CLOSE THEIR ACCOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!" just because they got spam with a return address @theispiworkfor . intarwebz . ru - 99 times out of 100 the message has actually originated from some virus infected cable connected computer in the states .	ninja (1671)
350306	2005-04-30 13:44:00	lol just learn how to use mailwasher which you already have it has the capability to very easily do what you want..........just RIGHT clik ONE of those spam messages in the list in mailwasher then clik on 'blacklist entire domain' ......then no matter who/what they call themselves if it still comes from @version.com mailwasher will bounce it automatically for you....Bouncing is a waste of time. All it does is double the amount of crap mail floating around. Spammers don't use valid return addresses, so bouncing isn't going to have any real effect. Save the wasted time and resources and disable bouncing in MailWasher. Your ISP and the internet at large will thank you for it. Edit: It's even in the SPAM FAQ: pressf1.pcworld.co.nz	ninja (1671)
350307	2005-04-30 20:38:00	hmm.........perhaps you are right about bouncing......it's a tricky one alright..if the spammers use spoofed sender addy then there is in theory no way to stop this junk ......yet mailwasher is quite effective in reducing the amount of mail that gets sent to a person, I've seen it work...	drcspy (146)
350308	2005-05-01 03:36:00	God . Bad advice . It'd be great if people did take the time to make sure they have some idea what they are talking about before giving peple advice . THIS JUST IN: Spammers fake their addresses . In new shock tactics spammers are known to use invalid addresses, usually not even the same address . It would be great if people bothered to read a posting before making inane remarks . (Even greater if they refrained from the inane remarks) . I suggested that it's not very useful to blacklist an ISP . I can suggest an absolute protection from spam . A pair of sidecutters does a perfect job of stopping spam . But it wouldn't help Peter's problem . I didn't suggest bouncing . I'm aware of the faking problem . My opinion of the utility of bouncing, based on that knowledge is in the PF1 FAQ . Perhaps ninja has read that by now . Now that there is starting to be some use of the courts for retribution on spammers, any complaint to an ISP might add weight if they manage to identify someone using their domain as a "culprit" . So that's about all I can suggest . I don't see any constructive suggestion from ninja .	Graham L (2)
350309	2005-05-01 03:47:00	or if possible get a new email address with a long name eg. my_email_address_is_very_very_long @ isp ... be creative and try to think of words no-one would use normally I have one like this for yahoo mail and I have not gotten a SINGLE bit of spam. unfortunately my bob_doe_nz hotmail email gets dumped with spam :mad:	bob_doe_nz (92)
350310	2005-05-01 10:13:00	It would be great if people bothered to read a posting before making inane remarks. (Even greater if they refrained from the inane remarks).*yawn* Try reading my post again. You suggested e-mailing abuse@verizon.net based on the fact the reply address was something@verizon.net. Based on your reported knowledge that bouncing is a waste of time as they fake their addresses, you should be able to extend that because they fake their address then chances are they aren't a Verizon subscriber and thus mailing abuse@verizon.net is also a waste of time. Perhaps the original poster might want to post the full headers of the message so we can see where it originates from.	ninja (1671)
350311	2005-05-01 10:15:00	eg. my_email_address_is_very_very_long @ isp ... be creative and try to think of words no-one would use normally I have one like this for yahoo mail and I have not gotten a SINGLE bit of spam. unfortunately my bob_doe_nz hotmail email gets dumped with spam :mad:I don't imagine thats the reason. The length of an address will have minimal if any effect on the amount of spam. Perhaps the fact your hotmail address is listed on web-sites (such as here: pressf1.pcworld.co.nz) is the reason it get's hit harder.	ninja (1671)
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