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Thread ID: 57514	2005-05-04 23:59:00	C drive file structure damage	Strommer (42)	Press F1

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352146	2005-05-05 03:02:00	ERRRRRRRR........lol at that last advice......almost the first thing this person said is they CANT access within 'my computer'...... C Drive cannot be accessed via My Computer, but Properties of C Drive can. Thus, I was able to run Scan Disk. then when you get that 'dos' screen type a 1 and tap enter then tap enter again....... OK, will do, although typing the '1' seems odd. :confused: The other bits you advise all sound good. Will try and get back here. Thanks. - Steve_L	Strommer (42)
352147	2005-05-05 03:15:00	Who's drive is it? Use one of the vendors disk utilities to scan file structure and test the disc surface. Cannot recall what HD it is. My Computer -- Properties [C] -- Hardware : this shows the letters "ST" followed by numbers. Seagate? Will have to look up the specs in my paper based filing system. :p ...If you want to have a high/low level read/write look at the disc and attempt repairs, use SpinRite (www.grc.com). You can also use it as an early warning to disc problems and recover data with it. It have to pay in $$. SpinRite costs approx $100 NZ, so I think I will first try a few freebie fixes or even reformat and reinstall WinXP. However, Graham says: This looks more like a corrupted Explorer, rather than a corrupted disk. You can boot XP. You can run programmes. There can't be much wrong with the disk. ... and this makes sense to me although I don't know much about these things. :rolleyes:	Strommer (42)
352148	2005-05-05 03:40:00	This looks more like a corrupted Explorer, rather than a corrupted disk . You can boot XP . You can run programmes . There can't be much wrong with the disk . I tend to agree with you Graham, but I still think a thorough drive diagnostic is warrented, you can't be too sure with disk drives, the defiiciencies in Windows error checking just adds to the uncertainty or gives false security . I've also seen a similar problem with Windows (Explorer) throwing a hissy fits after a USB card was installed, or more precisely, when a flash drive attached to the card was being accessed . From then on in, whether the card was attached or not My Computer would, at best, take an age to load up . Steve, that is a Seagate, what are the numbers? They'll look something like ST3120026A	Murray P (44)
352149	2005-05-05 04:33:00	I tend to agree with you Graham, but I still think a thorough drive diagnostic is warrented.... Steve, that is a Seagate, what are the numbers? They'll look something like ST3120026A Murray, the serial number is ST3120026AS. I can see the 120 Gb size there, but do not know what the other numbers and the 'AS' means. ?? I did try Norton's Disk Doctor, once again, and this time instead of getting the error message that another process was running, it did the following: Checking Partition Tables (OK) Checking File Structure (OK) Checking Indexes not OK - this is where it hung / froze Maybe later today, or tomorrow, I will try the 'WinXP CD' repair. Tonight I have to help my wife with a table of data. In spite of me telling her repeatedly how to use a table within MSWord, or columns, or Excell, she spent ages in a Word document pressing the space bar umpteen times to get everything into table-boxes format. :eek: :yuck: And now I have to fix the mess! :angry Ahh, the joys of marriage.... but that is another thing, a digression... will get back here and tell you if anything helped... with the C drive problem. BTW, is EBCD a freebie? Where to get it? (Have not googled yet.) And what is SMART, and BSOD, and AFAIK? I am not sure if these are common acronmyms such as 'BTW', or geek words like BIOS. Thanks - Steve_L	Strommer (42)
352150	2005-05-05 05:33:00	BSOD stands for Blue Screen of Death AFAIK stands for As Far As I Know SMART (is a hard drive technology) stands for Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology.	Overdrive_5000 (4950)
352151	2005-05-05 09:05:00	If you want something better, get a boot disc like EBCD, something thayt can read the drives SMART info to sufficient level would be good (see also drive manufacturers utility) Murray, on This Site (www.petri.co.il) , I found the following info: EBCD – Emergency Boot CD (v0.60) EBCD is a bootable CD, intended for system recovery in the case of software or hardware faults. It is able to create backup copies of normally working system and restore system to saved state. It contains the best system software ever created, properly compiled and configured for the maximum efficient use. EBCD will be very useful when you need to: (... a list follows) Well, I dunno... it does not seem to have anything to do with repairing the file structure or disk damage. :confused:	Strommer (42)
352152	2005-05-05 09:09:00	Everyone reading this... You may find This Web Site (netfiles.uiuc.edu) of use, since it has download links to about 50 free (emergency) boot disks and files. Now if only one of these could help me with my C drive file stucture... ;)	Strommer (42)
352153	2005-05-05 09:22:00	Attention any knowledgeable PF1 techies . . . Would this be of any use? Partition Table Doctor From this site ( . handyarchive . com/free/corrupt-partition/" target="_blank">www . handyarchive . com) ?? Or maybe this one found on the Major Geeks site: Here ( . com/download258 . html" target="_blank">majorgeeks . com) Drive Utilities | Disk Checker 3 . 0 Beta 9 :confused: Or File Scavenger On this site ( . snapfiles . com/Shareware/system/swdisktools . html" target="_blank">www . snapfiles . com) File Scavenger is a Windows NT/2000/XP file undelete and data recovery utility for NTFS and FAT/FAT32 volumes . It can recover files that were damaged by virus or accidentally deleted from Windows Explorer, the Recycled Bin, the DOS command line, or a network share along with original folder names and file Create and Modified dates . It supports reformatted volumes or broken hardware/software RAID volumes as well as file compression, dynamic disks, alternate data streams, sparse files, Unicode filenames and more . With the trial version only 64KB or smaller files can be recovered . File Scavenger offers 3 different search modes, one for quick access to recently deleted files, one for exhaustive search and also a defunct volume search that can even recover files from compromised striped and RAID volumes . We tested the product on a machine that was reformatted a few days ago, and safely recovered some of the files, old desktop shortcuts and more . . . . there is a heap of other programs on this site as well . Any good for my problem?	Strommer (42)
352154	2005-05-05 13:20:00	Use DiskWizard and Seatools (www.seagate.com) from Seagate first, Seatools is a boot disc with lower level checks than DiscWizard. If it's checks out ok, backup anyway and look at windows or a driver issue (like USB). Have a look at EBCD (http://ebcd.pcministry.com/), pretty sure you can change partitiontables etc, with it (hope I'm not getting mussed up with one of my other boot discs). You realy want something	Murray P (44)
352155	2005-05-05 20:03:00	I tend to agree that the disk is fine but explorer is corrupt have you tried running sfc you will need your install cd rom. goto programs...run type in sfc press enter sfc checks system files for corruption, and this maybe the case as you stated earlier you had a virus infection	beama (111)
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