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| Thread ID: 57889 | 2005-05-15 12:15:00 | What are immovable objects? | eef2 (1904) | Press F1 |
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| 355346 | 2005-05-15 12:15:00 | Apart from the obvious answer, "they are the things that prevent the irrepressible forces from going anywhere", the above phrase is used in an On Track (Trend Micro?) defrag programme. It says: "Some files could not be defragmented because the spaces between the immovable objects were too small". What on Earth does that mean? I have a legend in the Version 5 Fix-It routine which shows "immovable objects" (whatever they are) as black squares and there appeas to be an awful lot of them - more than I have ever seen before. As usual, I turned off virus scanners, screensavers, etc. before defragging. Using Win 98SE with all updates and Office 2000 that is in need of repair because of some message box with goes on about not finding objects which I don't understand. |
eef2 (1904) | ||
| 355347 | 2005-05-15 13:23:00 | Apart from the obvious answer, "they are the things that prevent the irrepressible forces from going anywhere", the above phrase is used in an On Track (Trend Micro?) defrag programme. It says: "Some files could not be defragmented because the spaces between the immovable objects were too small". What on Earth does that mean? I have a legend in the Version 5 Fix-It routine which shows "immovable objects" (whatever they are) as black squares and there appeas to be an awful lot of them - more than I have ever seen before. As usual, I turned off virus scanners, screensavers, etc. before defragging. Using Win 98SE with all updates and Office 2000 that is in need of repair because of some message box with goes on about not finding objects which I don't understand. I would define immovable as it says is unmovable but as to the reason? they [I.e. page file/swap file or open items], are currently in use and cannot be used. This was more an issue earlier on in computers i noticed with defragging and the apparent inflexibility of Windows 3.1/3.11 swap file if i recall correctly. Now assuming the same logic applies it may be the swapfile is fragmented or hiberation file or perhaps others. I cannot say however that this is exactly what this refers to as i am relying on seperate instances. You may wish to go with this idea or research in their support forum or support, assuming they have it, for help also |
CreightonBrown (5692) | ||
| 355348 | 2005-05-15 20:29:00 | Thanks for that. I was defragging within windows - silly me. I ought to have been in safe mode (and thus disabling the swapfile?) eef2 |
eef2 (1904) | ||
| 355349 | 2005-05-15 22:50:00 | some programs rely on knowing exactly where on the disk the data is placed. moving that data will cause problems hence why its listed as unmoveable so defrag will not move it. swapfile isn't a problem. any decent defrag program can shift it. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 355350 | 2005-05-16 03:29:00 | It's always a good idea to use Safe Mode to defragment. Doing other things on the computer at the same time will often cause problems. Any files which are open can't be shifted. Regard a defrag as like an oil change on a car: you don't take the car to the corner shop while the drain plug is removed. (Or you might, I suppose. Part of the way. Once.) ;) |
Graham L (2) | ||
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