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| Thread ID: 138070 | 2014-09-30 20:33:00 | Windows 10 | Lawrence (2987) | Press F1 |
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| 1385359 | 2014-10-05 20:29:00 | Sure, but on a desktop it's awful. Most users seem to agree with you and windows 8.xx is certainly unpopular but I don't find the start screen to be all that bad. Sure it's not the most attractive thing but I don't care about that, to me it's really nothing else but a place to organise all those shortcuts a lot of people like to clutter up the desktop with. I see it more as a customisable personal menu than a replacement for the old start menu which is more what the "all apps" screen seems like. I created a group of tiles called games and put all my games on it, another for utilities like control panel, malware scanners, various other tools, and so on, removed pretty much all the default tiles, sized the tiles to suit myself. Now I have a tidy organised easy to navigate collection of all the software I commonly use available at the push of the windows key. I still have quick launch icons and desktop shortcuts for the things I do all the time and just use the start screen for the rest. Having gotten used to it I find I don't miss the start menu at all. |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1385360 | 2014-10-05 20:50:00 | Most users seem to agree with you and windows 8.xx is certainly unpopular but I don't find the start screen to be all that bad. Sure it's not the most attractive thing but I don't care about that, to me it's really nothing else but a place to organise all those shortcuts a lot of people like to clutter up the desktop with. I see it more as a customisable personal menu than a replacement for the old start menu which is more what the "all apps" screen seems like. I created a group of tiles called games and put all my games on it, another for utilities like control panel, malware scanners, various other tools, and so on, removed pretty much all the default tiles, sized the tiles to suit myself. Now I have a tidy organised easy to navigate collection of all the software I commonly use available at the push of the windows key. I still have quick launch icons and desktop shortcuts for the things I do all the time and just use the start screen for the rest. Having gotten used to it I find I don't miss the start menu at all. Very well explained :thumbs:-- Thats exactly how I have mine setup as well. Anything thats not as above I simply either click on the Control Panel Icon, or go to the tiled screen and start typing its name, search finds it and opens - Simple really. To be honest When W10 does come to being installed I think I'll be putting the tiled start back, its simple enough to do :) |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1385361 | 2014-10-05 21:50:00 | Most users seem to agree with you and windows 8.xx is certainly unpopular but I don't find the start screen to be all that bad. My problem with it is that for me, a desktop (or laptop) computer is all about multi-tasking, whereas Metro and Metro programs with their full screen interface and hidden menus is quite the opposite. Sure you could use it just for a menu, while running all your programs on the normal desktop, but then you have to put up with switching constantly between two very different UI styles and functions. It's bizarre. |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1385362 | 2014-10-05 22:17:00 | The thing I'm most happy about is that they are getting rid of the charms bar, I've never warmed to that particular part of windows 8 but don't complain about it because I find I can happily ignore it's existence. When you run dual screens like I do hovering near a corner is particularly awkward. I never used the other corner features either except for the "invisible start button" that was in the bottom left corner before they gave it a visible icon. Swiping is fine, hovering a mouse pointer in a particular spot is annoying. Amongst all this postive feedback for windows 10 has anyone noticed that all the features MS want in windows that customers didn't ask for have been tweaked to work on a desktop better but are still there. I am mostly optimistic about windows 10 and will probably take up any cheap introductory offers if they happen but I find it amusing that all the things that seemed unwanted about windows 8 have just been toned down and tweaked a little and now people seem to like them. Metro/modern UI - modified but still there Start screen - optional but still there Live tiles - still there, now able to go on the start menu as well as start screen Flat non-aero UI - still there Metro apps - altered to run in a window (about time, seems obvious) but still there App store - well this one isn't going anywhere, MS want a piece of the pie other OS's enjoy selling apps |
dugimodo (138) | ||
| 1385363 | 2014-10-06 00:35:00 | Just adding to my post above re the LogonUI.exe , it can also be caused by other software that's installed. Antivirus software can cause errors as well. This is because its not designed for the OS. Its always best to remove any Protection first. "IF" you can get into safe mode, click on start, type in msconfig , open it, under the services tab, put a tick in "Hide all Microsoft Services" then untick everything that's remaining, try rebooting. If it starts OK then theres something installed and running that's causing the problem, then uninstall any programs ( starting with the Graphics and Antivirus). THANKS wainuitech, haven't had any luck getting into safemode YET lol I have tried F8 , its an HP computer...know of any other things to try for getting into safe mode? |
pct (16854) | ||
| 1385364 | 2014-10-06 01:01:00 | I have tried F8 , its an HP computer...know of any other things to try for getting into safe mode? ha, good luck with that. Just what was MS thinking ??? www.7tutorials.com Perhaps thats another thing MS need to fix with Win10 My wish list... fix the PC to PC file/folder sharing once & for all. It STILL has the same bugs there since vista make the COA's readable without flashlight & magnifying glass . Dont use B or 8 in the COA key please...... MS please standardize all the boot/bios F keys . MS are the only entity that could force OEMS to standardise that And yes, bring back F8 safe mode. :badpc: |
1101 (13337) | ||
| 1385365 | 2014-10-06 03:02:00 | THANKS wainuitech, haven't had any luck getting into safemode YET lol I have tried F8 , its an HP computer . . . know of any other things to try for getting into safe mode? Yeahhhhhhhhhh There are ways to get into safe mode, but the UEFI BIOS is a PITA . Being HP they don't always make things easy to bypass because if you disable the UEFI security in the BIOS so the legacy options appear, OR allow booting from CD/DVD, then other operations in one of the (normally 5-6) Partitions don't work and you can get into all sorts of troubles . Have a look when its first starting, is there a option to go to the boot menu options (may be F12) Personally since the OS cant be rolled back I'd be more inclined to boot from a DVD or USB drive, wipe it completely and install from fresh, of course as mentioned before, it WILL wipe any data / programs etc on the drive . Some HP's can still be a pain, have more than once removed the HDD, attached to a workshop PC to delete the partitions . Extra Guff: Only side effect you have to be aware of, W10 "may" not actually install anyway . If it doesn't then you would have to reinstall what ever OS was on there, download drivers etc . "If" its windows 8 or 8 . 1 all you would need is a install DVD, you wont find a product Key, it doesn't need one as its embedded on the motherboard for the original version of OS as it came . Meaning if you reinstalled it and it came with W8, then you would need to install W8, upgrade to 8 . 1 etc, you cant put 8 . 1 directly in unless that's what it came with from New . |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1385366 | 2014-10-06 06:12:00 | Why not make an image first I know you would Wai but surely that should be the first thing everyone should do before trialling a beta OS | gary67 (56) | ||
| 1385367 | 2014-10-06 07:39:00 | Why not make an image first I know you would Wai but surely that should be the first thing everyone should do before trialling a beta OS I usually use a separate disk, specifically for testing different operating systems. |
Agent_24 (57) | ||
| 1385368 | 2014-10-06 22:03:00 | Just updated Win 10 Preview, after it has restarted, I found that the Start .> 'All Apps' is empty other than 'Documents'. All the Apps were there before that Windows update. How do I get it back? |
bk T (215) | ||
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