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Thread ID: 138070	2014-09-30 20:33:00	Windows 10	Lawrence (2987)	Press F1

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1385329	2014-10-04 02:02:00	Personally I dont log into the Cloud. I do log in BUT its to my own Servers. I do have Skydrive connected automatically which contains certain documents I use every day that get altered so they do get auto backuped. The other backups are done automatically to my own servers. As convenient as having things on the cloud can be its can also be a pain-- a few weeks back some businesses I know about use the cloud 100% for their work after changing from a local setup that has worked for years -- the internet went down (ISP Problem) they were stuffed couldn't do anything. Cloud storage for my server backup -- Not going to happen, 2TB of Data/Programs would cost $$$$$$$ where external drives are so much cheaper. its a slightly different scenario, you're not going to go offline and be able to do nothing if your Internet connection goes down if you assign a Microsoft Account (MSA) to your Windows 10 machine. (for that business as well surely they made the choice to go all cloud, and the cost savings, that's one of the side effects if the internet went down, they also could have a 4G back router etc) Also Office 365, $100 a year or whatever it is 1TB of included OneDrive I'm genuinely trying to understand why people are cool to use a Google ID on Chrome/Android, Apple ID on iOS but don't want to use a MSA on Windows. For me there is a huge amount of value in simplifying the experience of using Windows by synching settings, personalisation options, start screen tiles and layout, appearance, personalisation (all my mouse settings/themes/background etc), list of installed apps, web browser favourites, open tabs, homes pages, passwords etc I'm not sure why you wouldn't want that.	nmercer (3899)
1385330	2014-10-04 02:03:00	If I wanted to backup anything I'll use another hdd, not the cloud. Dont trust the cloud / whatever you call it for anything or do both?	nmercer (3899)
1385331	2014-10-04 02:18:00	or do both? Nope. Not even if you gave me $1m	Speedy Gonzales (78)
1385332	2014-10-04 03:07:00	I'm genuinely trying to understand why people are cool to use a Google ID on Chrome/Android, Apple ID on iOS but don't want to use a MSA on Windows. For me there is a huge amount of value in simplifying the experience of using Windows by synching settings, personalisation options, start screen tiles and layout, appearance, personalisation (all my mouse settings/themes/background etc), list of installed apps, web browser favourites, open tabs, homes pages, passwords etc I'm not sure why you wouldn't want that. This is a bit long, but hopefully will give an incite as why :) Well, cant speak for others, but in my day to day work, dealing with regular people there's one very common trend ( Two types of Users). The before mentioned companies, Apple / Google more or less force a person to sign into some devices. If they are portable devices then having access to what ever you have in the cloud can be an advantage. BUT not everyone wants that. MANY regular people I deal with are more than happy to have their data on a device, like a Desktop, laptop, external HDD's or whats becoming popular a NAS and use products like Windows live Mail, Outlook or some other program for email. Have a version of Office as well. They Dont want to have everything syncing, no need for it either. How a home user and a business user use their devices are quite often totally different. What Microsoft are really aiming at is Business users that may need to have all their data available, the average home user doesn't need or want it, but does have the option if they so desire. As I mentioned before I only sign into my own servers, while I do have Microsoft accounts, there is no need to use them all the time. For example I have my work email during the day on the office computer, the last thing I want is trying to relax in the evenings, maybe doing some casual surfing, playing movies, music or games with work emails consistently popping in. The mail that is on Live, is also connected into Outlook, so it syncs when I open, when I want. The only other time is to sign into the Microsoft Store. I can tell you right now, MANY people are annoyed (polite Version) about having to sign in, they simply don't want it. I've lost count ( so to speak) on how many jobs I've done since W8 came out to remove the sign in and boot straight into windows. Microsoft actually "trick" people into signing in - Meaning there's no "in your face " option to select sign in or not. Having a shortage of computers is not a problem :) in the lounge right now, 4 computers, android tablet and the phones someplace :rolleyes:, I don't want them all syncing with one another, no point, another example of that is the Media center-- its not used for work, word, excel etc, or emails, its an entertainment device. About the only thing thats common to everything is connecting to a Server that has music, videos etc (as well as other stuff). Theres no way I'm going to store all that on the cloud only to use more data to stream it back to where it started from. As for syncing, other items like phones - again some people live on their phones :rolleyes: Many only want a phone for basic's- making and receiving call, text messaging. Lastly -- About cloud storage -- MANY dont trust it, no matter who it is. Take a couple of examples: ( this is not apple bashing its facts) iCloud gets data stolen and put onto the internet - the "naughty pictures", then just the other day, an Apple reset on mobile devices went wrong and wiped many peoples data from iCloud, some of it not recoverable. Yes it was a bad time for Apple, but it can happen to any Cloud storage. So now that you're in a probable :waughh: state, a question>Since you work for MS, MS Cloud storage - World Wide, how many locations are peoples data actually backed up to. ? Example if I were to have lost data due to a failure of one of MS servers in the USA, where else (and how many) are the backup copies so once the server is back up and going again everything will be as if nothing happened ? Think of it as having MS Cloud servers in USA, NZ, Japan, all syncing peoples data ?	wainuitech (129)
1385333	2014-10-04 04:07:00	Have they yet managed to support different wallpapers for each monitor like Linux does? Windows 8 does.	pcuser42 (130)
1385334	2014-10-04 04:14:00	Nope. Not even if you gave me $1m why wouldn't you want an extra line of defence for DR. Put it into an encrypted blob if you're worried about 3 letter agency spooks	nmercer (3899)
1385335	2014-10-04 04:24:00	I'm not worried about anything. Ive got nothing to hide. Just because I dont like the cloud doesnt mean I'm hiding anything Whatever agency can do whatever they want. There's nothing here.	Speedy Gonzales (78)
1385336	2014-10-04 08:39:00	Windows 8 does. I guess that will be useful if I ever get Win8 or higher, which hopefully will be never.	Agent_24 (57)
1385337	2014-10-04 08:54:00	I downloaded the technical preview on my computer and now have a flashing purple and black screen...any idea on a fix for this? :annoyed:	pct (16854)
1385338	2014-10-04 09:17:00	I guess that will be useful if I ever get Win8 or higher, which hopefully will be never. Then don't complain you're being left behind when Windows 7 is no longer supported ;)	pcuser42 (130)
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