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Thread ID: 136635 2014-03-24 23:14:00 Out Dated Tax System wainuitech (129) PC World Chat
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1371233 2014-03-26 22:23:00 Actually you'd still need land, to farm, which costs money. Once you have said land though, and are freehold, you can live off it by farming it, growing livestock etc

ignoring the need to buy land , just for the sake of arguement : assume a revolution & all the land was split up & given to Joe Public :p


Eventually you will need/want things that cant be grown own your small farm: metal, clothing, medicine etc
So you will have to start trading with others, those goods you're now trading have effectively just become money, so you gained nothing from all this.
Either that or you will eventually revert back to the stone age on your wee block of land.
1101 (13337)
1371234 2014-03-26 22:43:00 Talking of stupid computer systems, I called Farnell this morning, hoping to add some parts to an order I had already made (and which had not yet shipped)

They told me that even though the order was still waiting at the warehouse for parts on back order from UK warehouse, they couldn't add the extra parts because the order had already gone 'through the system'

Yeah....... OK.
Agent_24 (57)
1371235 2014-03-27 00:06:00 They told me that even though the order was still waiting at the warehouse for parts on back order from UK warehouse, they couldn't add the extra parts because the order had already gone 'through the system'



In other words , they didnt care :p
they could have..
- cancel 1st order: it was on hold anyway
- make a new order with the additional parts
1101 (13337)
1371236 2014-03-27 00:12:00 In other words , they didnt care :p
they could have..
- cancel 1st order: it was on hold anyway
- make a new order with the additional parts

Yeah, probably.
Agent_24 (57)
1371237 2014-03-27 00:25:00 we should abolish money and replace artificial scarcity with prosperity.

Have you ever taken the time to study the economics of supply and demand?

Perhaps you should :thumbs:
Webdevguy (17166)
1371238 2014-03-27 00:39:00 For the record, I'm definitely a fan of sustainable land management practices by way of organic farming. That way you can produce high quality organic food - meat, fruit and vege - which you can then sell at a premium over non organic produce as long as your organic stuff meets the required standards and is well presented to the customer.

I'm not a fan of communism or artificial trade tariffs which only serve to over inflate prices and encourage inefficient production methods.
Webdevguy (17166)
1371239 2014-03-27 00:54:00 For the record, I'm definitely a fan of sustainable land management practices by way of organic farming . That way you can produce high quality organic food - meat, fruit and vege - which you can then sell at a premium over non organic produce as long as your organic stuff meets the required standards and is well presented to the customer .



The problem with organic farming, is living with the sins of the previous farm owners . Its now just too late .
As organic farmers find out when their produce is tested for residues, heavy metals(cadmium) etc .

. waikatoregion . govt . nz/Services/Publications/Technical-Reports/TR-200551/" target="_blank">www . waikatoregion . govt . nz
Just how long before NZ produce is declared to tainted to exported to 1st world markets ?
1101 (13337)
1371240 2014-03-27 00:58:00 Once you have said land though, and are freehold, you can live off it by farming it, growing livestock etc

Of course there are still such things as rates.
pctek (84)
1371241 2014-03-27 09:57:00 For the record, I'm definitely a fan of sustainable land management practices by way of organic farming.

That way you can produce high quality organic food - meat, fruit and vege - which you can then sell at a premium over non organic produce as long as your organic stuff meets the required standards and is well presented to the customer.



I'm with you in principle but in the real world organic farming is not successful. Since the Global Financial Crisis, the sale of organic produce in Europe has dropped off 25%. You'll recall Fonterra stopped buying organic milk because there wasn't enough demand. No doubt some farmers survive through local markets but its hard work.

The world's food production has doubled over the last 30 years which has saved hundreds of millions of people from starvation. The ecological price for this is the use of herbicides, pesticides and genetically modified crops.

We can oppose this but try looking a starving person in the eye and explaining they can only eat organic food - which unfortunately ran out months ago.
Winston001 (3612)
1371242 2014-03-27 19:57:00 I'm with you in principle but in the real world organic farming is not successful . Since the Global Financial Crisis, the sale of organic produce in Europe has dropped off 25% . You'll recall Fonterra stopped buying organic milk because there wasn't enough demand . No doubt some farmers survive through local markets but its hard work .

The world's food production has doubled over the last 30 years which has saved hundreds of millions of people from starvation . The ecological price for this is the use of herbicides, pesticides and genetically modified crops .

We can oppose this but try looking a starving person in the eye and explaining they can only eat organic food - which unfortunately ran out months ago .

Fair enough .
Webdevguy (17166)
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